[Zounder]

Originally Posted by lrxevan

Perhaps by grading the creativity of the steps.

I made an edit to my post likely as you were writing this to clarify what I meant by "How else should I grade?" And why would I graade the creativity of the steps when the category is the creativity of the song? It seems you are quite confused.

In the case of Eurobeat, it is, by definition, generic. Eurobeat is a genre with such specific criteria as to what makes it "eurobeat" that it is impossible to say it's "not" generic.

I ultimately agree with this. Thus, anyone entering a eurobeat song should expect something that isnt a 100% score in creativity.

It's like saying "This rock song is generic because, like every other rock song, it has a bass guitar." I mean, in theory you could live without a bass guitar, and some songs don't have it, but a very high percentage (I would venture to say there are very few that don't have one) do, and you would be hard-pressed to find a rock song without one.

Sorry, but this is a really bad analogy. Kickstart my Heart doesn't have any outstanding qualities as a song that says to me "Hey, this is unique." There are other rock songs that do. Same goes for any other genre.

I agree with jesterline; I believe your judging was somewhat flawed in that you picked apart things that are set in stone. That would be like saying "the pope? wearing his pope hat? blasphemy! 4/10!"

I have no clue what this means, especially the part in the bolded text.

And that's somewhat irrelivant as is; if you're going to dock points for using songs in certain genres, it helps if you at least know what they are. Classifying all electronic music as "techno" really exposes your ignorance in that regard.

Do I really need to quote my previous post?

And yet with all that said, it doesn't really matter as the judging is pretty much set in stone; no one here is going to admit they're wrong, especially if they're being regarded as "an expert."

If it all really doesn't mater then why bother posting all of this? Is your goal to discredit me? Is your goal to get attention? And of course I'm not going to admit I'm wrong because I'm not "wrong". It's black and white here. Creativity is the category. A judge should judge the song based on how creative it is. If it's generic its generic, regardless if it's techno or trance or dance or eurobeat or whatever it is. My lack of knowledge of what music falls under what specific type of genre does not matter here. Anyway, The opinion comes in when it comes down to HOW generic/creative the song choice is. THAT is up in the air. But it seems you're trying to tell me 1. How generic a song is should not be accounted for and 2. my opinion is wrong.

All I ask is that in the future, you judge what you were brought here to judge: step quality.

Are you blind? The "creativity" aspect we are discussing is under the SONG category, not the STEPS category! Don't get me wrong, creativity is of huge importance in in steps, but the thing you and jester are complaining about is under "song /15".