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10-24-2006, 01:39 PM
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#151 | | wanna tell that
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Originally Posted by Heavy Metal Hero  1) gasm is a wolf trying to lure out the seer. | Gasm's current behavior stinks of this to me. He seems to be trying far too hard to insist that he's a human, and that if the real seer doesn't believe him, to post the truth, thereby killing off the seer by night two.
How exactly does this not benefit the wolves, again? If the seer points you out, you get a free kill on him and we'd know you're a wolf -- but in this case, I think a number of us already kind of are starting to have our suspicions. Might as well knock out the seer if you think you're on the way out anyhow, or what?
Others' thoughts?
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10-24-2006, 01:44 PM
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#152 | | I want to touch your soul
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I'm voting for Fletcher this round.
I have no thoughts/opinions on what is happening at this moment so I'm going with the vote I had last night.
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10-24-2006, 01:54 PM
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#153 | | I'm not normal...
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Originally Posted by rmz He seems to be trying far too hard to insist that he's a human, and that if the real seer doesn't believe him, to post the truth, thereby killing off the seer by night two. | I don't think he's trying to kill off the seer. His original post about this grand plan was rather hard to read so I can see how you might have come to that conclusion but I think what he was trying to do was prove to himself that the seer that contacted him was in fact the real seer and not a wolf in disguise. By asking for a counterclaim, he would be able to determine if the seer that contacted him was a wolf or not.
gasm please correct me if I'm wrong in my conclusion.
Also, looking back on history, in games past gasm has always been a human with a grand plan. I think his claim is genuine that he is a human, especially if he's been contacted by the seer. This probably means that the seer saw that he was a human before contacting him. These are just some thoughts to rmz's post. I'm curious to know what others think too.
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10-24-2006, 02:59 PM
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#154 | | //goddamn::[PISSED]
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normac is my vote. Trying to muddy the waters isn't helping. | |
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10-24-2006, 04:21 PM
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#155 | | //bemanistyle::[User]
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Originally Posted by rmz Gasm's current behavior stinks of this to me. He seems to be trying far too hard to insist that he's a human, and that if the real seer doesn't believe him, to post the truth, thereby killing off the seer by night two.
How exactly does this not benefit the wolves, again? If the seer points you out, you get a free kill on him and we'd know you're a wolf -- but in this case, I think a number of us already kind of are starting to have our suspicions. Might as well knock out the seer if you think you're on the way out anyhow, or what?
Others' thoughts? | First of all, if I was a wolf, the seer would have had one of his two views come forward and post that I am a wolf. But this has not happened, so there is no logical reason to believe that I am a wolf.
So the trade would be 1 wolf for 1 human that the seer viewed. This would definately be an awful deal for the wolves.
As for my vote. I will vote for Fletcher. Casting a vote because someone is "Trying to muddy the waters" makes no sense. What he was doing was contributing to the discussion. Voting off people who try to further discussion, which gives us more info, is definately something that would hurt the humans.
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10-24-2006, 06:44 PM
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#156 | | I'm not normal...
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Originally Posted by gasm What he was doing was contributing to the discussion. Voting off people who try to further discussion, which gives us more info, is definately something that would hurt the humans. | My response was a direct response to rmz's call for clarification. To call that muddying the waters is what's not helping. Also voting for Fletcher for lack of valid reasoning behind his vote, for not contributing to the current discussion, and possibly trying to pin me to save himself. | |
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10-24-2006, 07:29 PM
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#157 | | supermodels&finewines
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I don't think that you've thought everything through, gasm. I'm still siding with you, but just because everyone has checked the thread and nobody has counterclaimed it doesn't mean that the seer who contacted you is real; maybe they are a wolf, and the real seer just doesn't trust you? Don't put all your faith in this guy, he could be a liar or a poser. Just some advice.
Also, withholding vote.
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10-24-2006, 09:09 PM
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#158 | | //bemanistyle::[User]
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You bring up a a good point HMH.
If there is another seer who is hesitant to trust me. You dont have to worry about being figured out. There are two people that you viewed, at least one must have been human. If they were, tell them to come to me claiming to be the seer. You can hide behind him and not have to worry about being killed. The worst that could happen is that I could be a wolf, and I would trade in my own life for that of a human. Which is a deal that is good for the humans.
If anyone can think of a way that this could help the wolves over the humans, point it out, because I have not seen any good arguments against it, and if I do, I will gladly step down from my plan.
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