CG VS. Cel

La Pika Chica · 08-17-2006, 05:29 PM

Okay, so my mom decides to drag me to Barnyard last week. (Don't ask me why.) And we get into this HUGE arguement over which is better. 3-D CG animated films, or old fashioned Cel animation.

Now, I don't HATE CG,please understand this. But is anyone else getting a little bit tired of 3-D? I know that this is a giant step in cartoons and possibly filmmaking. But, I don't think we should yet cel animation die. I am a hardcore otaku,(as many other members of this forum are also) so maybe my view on this whole thing might be a tad.........jaded at best. But, technology shouldn't get in the way of good storytelling.

I don't know.......tell me what you guys think. Thanx!!

Victamone · 08-17-2006, 05:35 PM

First off this should probably go into Polls and Questions. Second, CG's will always be sexy.

Monster in a box · 08-17-2006, 07:28 PM

Depends. Some movies are better 3-D, some are better 2-D. I prefer the traditional animation myself though.

ultralowincome · 08-18-2006, 10:19 AM

Shrek 2 and Cars, among a few others, are real technical inspirational marvels. Others, like Hoodwinked or Doogle, or utterly forgettable. I don't even remember a 2D cel movie this year, it's all about the CG... for me, I like early 2D movies like the Disney movies before Pocahontas (thats when it started to go downhill, capped off by Hercules and a few others-i'm not saying they're bad, but they don't hold a candle to Lion King, Mermaid, or Alladdin). They're all good if you get the right movies...graphics don't matter as much as content...

Shinden · 08-19-2006, 03:07 AM

Advent Children.

Thread over.

Daniel · 08-19-2006, 05:21 AM

Yeah you couldn't have a hand drown Advent Children, but hand drawn animation is better as it has more human qualities to it.

Malev · 08-19-2006, 05:45 AM

Old-fashioned cel animation has now become more costly than 3D for America, as any current 2D animation sends its grunt work to Asian countries to produce (or import).

2D animation is extensive work, making dozens of drawings to draw, ink, paint, and film for mere seconds of footage. 3D, on one hand, can be highly extensive initially (for modelling), but can be lesser intensive man labor-wise as the animation queues are made and the computer renders it. A few talented CGI animators and some computer systems are more affordable than a mass of people to haul the workforce for 2D animation.

Secondly, it's the popular mentality. More students are working towards 3D animation than ol' 2D; and to the casual audience, 3D looks more impressive than 2D, and may see 2D as being "cheap".

Overall, 3D won out due to costs and marketing.

Victamone · 08-19-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shinden

Advent Children.

Thread over.

Shinden wins.

Excel-2009 · 08-21-2006, 01:59 AM

I find it a big shame that I don't know anyone under the age of 14 who appreciates the old short subject cartoons (Acme Hour, Tex Avery Show, et al.) even a little.

dj Outlaw · 08-21-2006, 01:20 PM

I think more often, 2D animation is more expressive. 3D animation is expressive too, but it's harder to do unless you make your characters really stylized (ie not super realistic)

So yeah. I like 2D animation more most of the time. Maybe it's just the nostalgia of growing up on it that's talking though.

eepiccolo · 08-21-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jme a. calwell III

I find it a big shame that I don't know anyone under the age of 14 who appreciates the old short subject cartoons (Acme Hour, Tex Avery Show, et al.) even a little.

I in fact know a particular three year old who love the old Disney and Loony Toons shorts. She'll actually laugh out loud at those cartoons, but at the newer stuff like Sponge Bob and Fairly Odd Parents, she just kind of stares at them.

But back on the subject, I think both 3D and 2D have their place, depending on many factors. However, 3D is becoming far more commonplace, and the market has really been over-saturated this summer, resulting in a bit of disenchantment in this type of media. And it's been around for so long now, it's not like when we were all wowed by Toy Story.

La Pika Chica · 08-22-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shinden

Advent Children.

Thread over.

Oh,God yes. Advent Children looked amazing. You couldn't really do a movie like that in 2-D. (Touche). I guess with all the computer animated movies that came out this summer, It just got too dull for me. That's all.

eepiccolo · 08-23-2006, 09:44 AM

Never lose hope. In any artistic media the majority will be crap in order to make money for production studios. However, there will always also be gems, like Advent Children.

Daniel · 08-23-2006, 10:39 PM

CG shouldn't survive on being a novelty. CG needs to one day become just another form of animation.