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Old 03-15-2008, 12:28 AM   #16
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his most recent stuff, absolutely
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Old 03-15-2008, 02:20 PM   #17
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This is officially music now right...?
It had been about music but we were messing around earlier
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Old 03-15-2008, 06:46 PM   #18
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Hey at least someones gotta be on top of things ^_^V'';;';;''
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Old 03-16-2008, 08:23 AM   #19
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Nope, most of his music consists of NRG samples and isn't nearly as complex enough to be hardcore. Too fast too. Unless you're going by the laymen's definition of hardcore, which is loud and obnoxious, then I guess it fits the bill.

And Rina Sakazawa rocks.
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Old 03-16-2008, 05:56 PM   #20
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YouTube - THE DEEP STRIKER w/ Mei video Full version

Sorry dude, this is definitely hardcore
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Old 03-16-2008, 11:40 PM   #21
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I like the previous discussion too.
I hope L.E.D. comes out with more music like Deep Striker in his album
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Old 03-18-2008, 03:30 AM   #22
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The Chemist: Take a lesson from Ishkur or Wikipedia. That's not hardcore. It's called Nu Style Gabba. Actually it's not hard enough even to be that. It is almost like Anthem Trance, if it weren't for the bass it wouldn't even be called Gabba and downgrade into Hardstyle. The whole song only has like... 1 complex layer. The correct definition for Hardcore is complexity, not loudness and obnoxious sounds.
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Old 03-18-2008, 09:53 PM   #23
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The Chemist: Take a lesson from Ishkur or Wikipedia.
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Old 03-18-2008, 10:06 PM   #24
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Nope, most of his music consists of NRG samples and isn't nearly as complex enough to be hardcore. Too fast too..
Well if I'm not mistaken, since I've listened to a lot of it, most of his music as simply "L.E.D." and not his other aliases L.E.D.-G and L.E.D. light is goa trance, and goa trance is far more complex than hardcore will ever be, sorry.

But the song in question is an L.E.D.-G song, and it definitely falls under the hardcore main genre, although it doesn't fit into the subgenres of hardcore techno, happy hardcore, or hardstyle. It would more closely fit in gabber but I thought gabber was usually a little faster. Edit: on a second listen it could even be considered hardcore techno I'm pretty sure. I'm not a hardcore expert or anything, though.
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Old 03-20-2008, 04:11 PM   #25
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The Chemist: Take a lesson from Ishkur or Wikipedia.
Wha???? Wikipedia is one of the worst sites ever for music genres (unless you think Bjork makes IDM and Punk Rock), and the guy who made Ishkur is extremely biased, has no credibility and makes up genres (Death Trance? Psytekk? Gloomcore?).
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The Chemist: Take a lesson from Ishkur or Wikipedia. That's not hardcore. It's called Nu Style Gabba.
At this point, you're correct. Then you go and say this:

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Actually it's not hard enough even to be that. It is almost like Anthem Trance, if it weren't for the bass it wouldn't even be called Gabba and downgrade into Hardstyle.
There is no chance in hell that The Deep Striker is anything like Anthem Trance. Too fast, uses a 12th note rhythm (which anthem trance NEVER does), and the sound is far too interesting. Also, it should be noted that hardstyle and nu style gabba are separated mostly by BPM, not how hard the sound is. Hardstyle is essentially nu style gabba at 140 BPM.

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Nope, most of his music consists of NRG samples and isn't nearly as complex enough to be hardcore. Too fast too. Unless you're going by the laymen's definition of hardcore, which is loud and obnoxious, then I guess it fits the bill.
This is just bullshit. Hey, let's take a lesson from Wikipedia like you suggested:
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[Hardcore techno] is typified by a fast tempo and the rhythmic use of distorted and atonal industrial-like beats and samples.
If anything, a good amount of his music is too slow to be hardcore. The faster songs, such as The Deep Strikers, fit the description pretty well.

For reference, the article I referenced is this one: Hardcore techno - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Old 03-21-2008, 09:26 PM   #28
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Hey guys let's argue about genres
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Old 03-21-2008, 09:30 PM   #29
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And Rina Sakazawa rocks.
Rina or Rena? I can't find anything on Rina Sakazawa and google directs me to Rena Sakazawa which I do find vids for.
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Lmfao ITT: Wikipedia and Ishkurs Guide are legitimate sources of information
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