ITG2 to DDRSN upgrade kits - Page 2

travelsonic · 10-04-2007, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by vjgyo

I think the upgrade kits are mainly for the ITG games in a DDR cabinet. ITG used DDR cabinets, now we're worried about Roxor suing over the dedicabs being upgraded to SN2? Those machines are Konami's now. There shouldn't be any legal troubles.

P.S. (pet peeve time) - to the quote in the first post, Kyle Ward: LEARN HOW TO USE A SEMICOLON PROPERLY.

I know that the rights for all of RoXor's stuff is now Konami's, but what about Andamiro (spelt wrong on my part no doubt)? As mentioned before, didn't they make the ITG2 dedicabs, and aren't certain PumP dedicabs designed to be interchangable with ITG2, as the cabinet itself is prety much the same?

The Butthole Surfer · 10-05-2007, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by travelsonic

I know that the rights for all of RoXor's stuff is now Konami's, but what about Andamiro (spelt wrong on my part no doubt)? As mentioned before, didn't they make the ITG2 dedicabs, and aren't certain PumP dedicabs designed to be interchangable with ITG2, as the cabinet itself is prety much the same?

I'd assume that when RoXoR took over production of the machines, that the rights for the machines also transferred completely over to them...

But anyway, I don't think the machines became the exclusive property of Konami, because the arcades' OWN them. They're the property of the arcade owners who bought them, not Konami.

So, no, I don't think anyone will be suing anyone.

travelsonic · 10-05-2007, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by linkismyhero

But anyway, I don't think the machines became the exclusive property of Konami, because the arcades' OWN them. They're the property of the arcade owners who bought them, not Konami..

I meant the machine design, not the physical machines.

ΩOMEGAΩ · 10-05-2007, 09:27 PM

will this ever end?

RoXoR is really getting s taste of its own medicine in a way.

However, you already know arcades will probably not so it though, because ITG is really popular still.

Akkaraju · 10-06-2007, 03:50 AM

Something like this was bound to happen. It's really sad to see some of the remaining machines will be DDR-ized. I feel happy that Edmonton's machines probably won't be a victim to this, due to having a SN and an ITG2 machine, but I have little clue what will happen to the other ITG machines floating around out there in Canada.

FFR4EVA_00 · 10-06-2007, 08:57 AM

And so, karma claims another victim.
While I do feel bad about the fall of ITG, I do not feel bad for anyone associated with it. Who wouldn't see a lawsuit coming, considering the fact that ITG1 and non-dedicab ITG2 machines are technically hacked DDR machines?

MadDogBV · 10-06-2007, 11:23 AM

On the flip side, ITG2 machines will tend to be safe if there is an ITG and a DDR in the same arcade, but I think that goes without saying.

travelsonic · 10-06-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FFR4EVA_00

...considering the fact that ITG1 and non-dedicab ITG2 machines are technically hacked DDR machines?

Depends on how you use the term, hacked, which IMO feels out of place.

FFR4EVA_00 · 10-07-2007, 06:59 AM

How about I rephrase it, then: ITG1 and non-dedicab ITG2 machines are third-party modifications of Konami hardware. I'm pretty sure it's illegal when the third party does not get permission to release it (if that is even possible).

ΩOMEGAΩ · 10-07-2007, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by FFR4EVA_00

How about I rephrase it, then: ITG1 and non-dedicab ITG2 machines are third-party modifications of Konami software. I'm pretty sure it's illegal when the third party does not get permission to release it (if that is even possible).

ya, you basically got that down, I mean moding is pretty much illegal to, because you dont have a license to modify a product in such ways.

***June.H*** · 10-07-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FFR4EVA_00

How about I rephrase it, then: ITG1 and non-dedicab ITG2 machines are third-party modifications of Konami software. I'm pretty sure it's illegal when the third party does not get permission to release it (if that is even possible).

Um, no. It's not modifying Konami's software, it's their hardware.

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ya, you basically got that down, I mean moding is pretty much illegal to, because you dont have a license to modify a product in such ways.

You can do whatever the hell you want to do to stuff you own. If you own a machine, you can hack the living piss out of it, as long as you're not out selling it, distributing it, and stuff. Modding isn't illegal until it's something that's going out to the public, usually for some kind of personal gain.

And a license? A license for modding? Who's ever heard of a license to mod crap? You mean permission?

cj iwakura · 10-07-2007, 07:17 PM

Seeing SN on an ITG2 dedicab would look gorgeous, but losing an ITG2 to one, not so much.

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Originally Posted by Hiryuu

The irony is that he says 'DON'T GET RID OF ITG2' but he has PIU Pro pieces that stress getting rid of any PIUs that you currently have in place of it.

Wisdom.

ExpressoLAN · 10-07-2007, 07:54 PM

soo. why dont people just buy supernova and play it at home? why waste 4000.00 on supernova? there are plenty of people that still have love for ITG even though there are no more cabinets comming out. in other words.. save your money. the machine my my house is getting hella business and they have an ITG2 dedicab. so i hope they dont see this.

***June.H*** · 10-08-2007, 09:44 PM

I don't know. Why doesn't anyone just buy IIDX CS versions and stay at home? Why not buy V3 CS and forget ever going to the arcade?

Same reason you want to play DDR at an arcade.

-Meet people.
-Show off.
-Songlists are VASTLY superior in the arcade (as in, what 50-80 in home version as opposed to about 300-500 in the arcade?).
-Competition is far more apparently in person that "rival data."

cj iwakura · 10-08-2007, 11:31 PM

Also, the R21 trend basically means that every new person you meet can contribute songs to try out.