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Old 12-22-2006, 08:55 PM   #16
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Am I the only who thinks that Determinator is the easiest (I only passed ! and Determinator, but ! is not counted as 12 anymore)?
did you like BS the middle stream or something? Because that stream should be exceedingly hard to do for newcomers to the 11/12 difficulty (at least it was for me).
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Old 12-22-2006, 10:28 PM   #17
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I've heard of plenty of people with Determinator with their absolute last 12-rated song (maybe along with Bloodrush or something). If you can move your feet fast enough for that one middle stream, you've basically set yourself for the whole song.
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Old 12-24-2006, 12:53 PM   #18
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VerTex is easiest. It's really only an 11, but all the mines and such give it a tech-12. I might get screamed at for this, but oh well.

I think Euphoria is kind of easy. It's dead hard to score well on. But the steps aren't like crazy crossover. It's just pumping your feet for the 64ths.
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Old 12-24-2006, 06:08 PM   #19
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Ok first of all you have no right to say Euphoria is easy unless you have like double starred it, and almost nobody would consider Tell an easy 12 footer...
does a 90% count?
the song is too slow to be tiring and even if you bs the 32nd notes u can still pass it...

Tell is a fairly hard song, and there is no one that can really say Determinator is not challenging, because most people do NOT full combo that freaking center!
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Old 12-31-2006, 06:04 PM   #20
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i actually passed Hardcore of the North for my first 12. i dunno, i haven't really tried any other twelve.
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Old 12-31-2006, 06:19 PM   #21
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Determinator is easiest if you play heel-toe cause you can just swivel.

Otherwise Delerium is easiest if you have stamina, !, Tell, and Euphoria are the dumbest sims I have played, and I dont play them any more.
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Old 12-31-2006, 08:52 PM   #22
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I'm not really in the 12 range yet, but i've passed VerTex without mines and C300, so i guess that doesn't count. But, it's still easy, and when i play, it feels like my legs are doing it for me... so basically, without mines, it's easy. Haven't touched Delirium yet...
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Old 01-01-2007, 10:33 AM   #23
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Go 60 Go was probably the easiest 12 that I've gotten around to passing so far. The streams are very short, and the steps aren't too hard to get used to. The most difficult part would probably be the mines thrown in with step-jumps.

! is also fairly easy (my first 12), but the rhythms are a little harder to adjust to and more stamina is needed than Go 60 Go.
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:14 PM   #24
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If you are like me and fail July Another, but can easily pass Delirium , Vertex , Onyx , and Go 60 Go ... I would have to say Go 60 Go and Vertex are easy 12 Meters.
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:22 PM   #25
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Go 60 Go was probably the easiest 12 that I've gotten around to passing so far. The streams are very short, and the steps aren't too hard to get used to. The most difficult part would probably be the mines thrown in with step-jumps.

! is also fairly easy (my first 12), but the rhythms are a little harder to adjust to and more stamina is needed than Go 60 Go.
Go 60 Go is easiest, its just hard to quadstar due to the weird actual rhythm of the song. ive passed ! as well, and find it to be rather draining, but nowhere as hard as a song like Delirium or something of the sort.
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:00 AM   #26
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I'd say Vertex isn't too bad, but playing on 1x sucks. 1.5 is pretty much murder unless you can read close to 1000 bpm. Delerium isn't bad at all if you can keep up and have stamina for 16th runs that last a long time. Tell has some complicated step step jumps in 16th divisions. Those are hard to FA, but besides those and the mine field 16th streams, the songs not too bad. And I hate (!). But it was my first 12 and it was the easiest at that time, but now I can't seem to do any better on it, or pass it for some reason, must be the fact that I'm actually trying to do well on it now rather than just fudging through it.

For 12's, I'd rate easiest from top to bottom for you:

1. ! (Harder to FA, but has a pattern thats easy to fudge)
2. Vertex (the only problem is 1x, the song is relatively easy)
3. Tell (Weird step jumps and a crappy mine field, but not too hard)
4. Delerium (Long stream in the end, kills, stamina drain, easy beginning)
5. Go 60 Go (Odd triplet pattern, funky mines with jumps, easy besides that)
6. Hardcore of the North (Just really stamina draining, quad sets instead of triplets)
7. Energizer (Fast, 16th step jumps, decent long runs with crossovers, slow down)
8. Determinator (Really fast, short runs, plus one really long one, not at all hard besides that though, but the fact that the runs are so fast, it ranks high)
9. Euphoria (I hate this song, really tough pattern and stamina draining. Slow part isn't really time to catch your breath either, plus if you look at most people's Euphoria expert scores off ddrecall, not many are incredibly high, except for the super insane)
10. Bloodrush (The only 12 I haven't passed, fast crossover runs, a really annoying slow part, and I hate the hold - steps after the slow part. I haven't learned how to not use my stamina up on this song. I rank this the hardest 12).

So, work your way from 1 to 10 imo. Obviously everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses. But I think this will help.
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Old 01-04-2007, 03:48 AM   #27
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Delerium is crazy easy for a 12 and should be an 11 by far. It's about on par with Sweet World and easier than Soapy Bubble (which are both 10s!)
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Old 01-04-2007, 10:27 AM   #28
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Delerium is crazy easy for a 12 and should be an 11 by far. It's about on par with Sweet World and easier than Soapy Bubble (which are both 10s!)
exceot for the fact that sweet world and soapy bubble are SLOW and delirium has a kick ass mid-stream. But whatever, i guess your the all knowing =\
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Old 01-04-2007, 07:38 PM   #29
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I'd say Vertex isn't too bad, but playing on 1x sucks. 1.5 is pretty much murder unless you can read close to 1000 bpm. Delerium isn't bad at all if you can keep up and have stamina for 16th runs that last a long time. Tell has some complicated step step jumps in 16th divisions. Those are hard to FA, but besides those and the mine field 16th streams, the songs not too bad. And I hate (!). But it was my first 12 and it was the easiest at that time, but now I can't seem to do any better on it, or pass it for some reason, must be the fact that I'm actually trying to do well on it now rather than just fudging through it.

For 12's, I'd rate easiest from top to bottom for you:

1. ! (Harder to FA, but has a pattern thats easy to fudge)
2. Vertex (the only problem is 1x, the song is relatively easy)
3. Tell (Weird step jumps and a crappy mine field, but not too hard)
4. Delerium (Long stream in the end, kills, stamina drain, easy beginning)
5. Go 60 Go (Odd triplet pattern, funky mines with jumps, easy besides that)
6. Hardcore of the North (Just really stamina draining, quad sets instead of triplets)
7. Energizer (Fast, 16th step jumps, decent long runs with crossovers, slow down)
8. Determinator (Really fast, short runs, plus one really long one, not at all hard besides that though, but the fact that the runs are so fast, it ranks high)
9. Euphoria (I hate this song, really tough pattern and stamina draining. Slow part isn't really time to catch your breath either, plus if you look at most people's Euphoria expert scores off ddrecall, not many are incredibly high, except for the super insane)
10. Bloodrush (The only 12 I haven't passed, fast crossover runs, a really annoying slow part, and I hate the hold - steps after the slow part. I haven't learned how to not use my stamina up on this song. I rank this the hardest 12).

So, work your way from 1 to 10 imo. Obviously everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses. But I think this will help.
i think i agree with this chart the fullest. especially with the fact that ive passed these in almost this order, up til #8. except i have yet to pass HoTN, so i would place Energizer before it.

as your stamina goes up, Delirium gets easier, but i believe its still a 12, because it has longer straight 16th runs than most/all 11 footers.

for instance, if the opening to Destiny was maybe 8-12 measures longer, and there were a few more jumps, people would probably call it a 12.
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Old 01-04-2007, 09:36 PM   #30
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I would choose "Bloodrush" because it has a rest at the middle of the song and it's pretty ezy is ur good tho. Thr problem with that song is the turns and the freezes with 8th beats.
My second song would be "!" because not that much 16th beats, some 24th beats but thats no prob. "!" is pretty easy except when it freezes with a roll and u might hit like 7 mines.
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