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Old 03-11-2007, 04:36 PM   #16
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I'm assuming the reason some consider hyper-speed a cheat is because no song is really hard enough for it to be necessary, unlike IIDX and Pop'n where a notechart like Jordan Expert would be just another another chart. DDR is not a game that really requires it, and I believe there were debates over hi-speed in that as well.

I really have no issue with hyper-speed in GH due to my background in IIDX. I think the emphasis should be on playing rather than reading, especially since real rock performers don't have this scrolling guitar tab telling them what to play.

High Speed isn't needed for IIDX either. 6th Style has a tatsujin on it of LISU playing V[a] and getting an A or an AA with no high speed mod.
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Old 03-11-2007, 07:23 PM   #17
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High Speed isn't needed for IIDX either. 6th Style has a tatsujin on it of LISU playing V[a] and getting an A or an AA with no high speed mod.
Guess what? That doesn't prove anything. He also did MAX 300 HS3 Hid+Sud but that doesn't mean that "seeing the notes isn't required for IIDX."
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Old 03-11-2007, 08:39 PM   #18
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i imagine a lot of it is memorization too.
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:18 AM   #19
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Guess what? That doesn't prove anything. He also did MAX 300 HS3 Hid+Sud but that doesn't mean that "seeing the notes isn't required for IIDX."
Actually, I remember him saying he could have done it blind folded at the time. That's kind of my point, though, and the MAX 300 example helps to strengthen it. The real skill is in hitting the actual notes, not reading the chart, so there isn't any reason not to use speed mods.
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Old 03-16-2007, 08:59 PM   #20
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Actually, I remember him saying he could have done it blind folded at the time. That's kind of my point, though, and the MAX 300 example helps to strengthen it. The real skill is in hitting the actual notes, not reading the chart, so there isn't any reason not to use speed mods.
Ah, okay, I thought you were trying to use Lisu as an example of how Hi-Speed is cheating for IIDX because he can AA V[a] without HS so everyone should be able to.

Phew.
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Old 04-09-2007, 04:30 AM   #21
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Look at any youtube videos of people playing GH2 with hyperspeed and you'll find people calling them 'cheating fag' etc.
If you didn't realize this by now, over 80% of youtube commenters are morons that like to say things just to start fights, since the only thing they can afford to do is harass other people on a video upload site.

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Old 04-10-2007, 06:34 PM   #22
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Personally, I think that if you play IIDX 3rd Style and you're NOT using Lo-Speed 2, you're cheating. Normal speed is for cheating losers.
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Old 04-21-2007, 06:00 PM   #23
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i use it all the time, really makes it easier. maybe it should have options like ddr?
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Old 05-05-2007, 12:58 AM   #24
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It's sorta like C200 OR C400 in Stepmania, which is when it slows it down into readable steps, but same beat. I use it for fun when I'm bored mostly, kinda hilarious to watch myself try to clear Jordan with hyper speed on though. Hehe.
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Old 06-15-2007, 07:40 PM   #25
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It makes songs easier at higher levels because the notes are more spread out.
Harmonix putting it as a code and calling it a 'cheat' when you put it in was a bad move, but it shows America's general view (as with playing 2x note on Supernova) that modifiers = cheating. Look at any youtube videos of people playing GH2 with hyperspeed and you'll find people calling them 'cheating fag' etc.

I wonder if people would still harass people for using the Performance Mode 'cheat'.
wow ur freakign retarded.
i play ddr/ItG and i am good. i use speed mods and they arnt considered cheating.
i dub what u said the dumbest thing ive ever heard.
i plays 600 bpm's + if its below 400 i suck badly.
more speed helps certian peoples eyes.
man wowwww
that was so dumb what u said honestly.
if u saw my put it on x3 on a 200 bpm song and i AA or triple stard it and u called me a cheat id beat ur face in jsut for the fact ur a idiot.
ignorent people i swear
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:02 PM   #26
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rofl.
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Old 06-16-2007, 08:08 AM   #27
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wow ur freakign retarded.
i play ddr/ItG and i am good. i use speed mods and they arnt considered cheating.
i dub what u said the dumbest thing ive ever heard.
i plays 600 bpm's + if its below 400 i suck badly.
more speed helps certian peoples eyes.
man wowwww
that was so dumb what u said honestly.
if u saw my put it on x3 on a 200 bpm song and i AA or triple stard it and u called me a cheat id beat ur face in jsut for the fact ur a idiot.
ignorent people i swear
Notice how he never called it a cheat
Nice job, ass
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Old 06-17-2007, 07:13 PM   #28
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wow ur freakign retarded.
i play ddr/ItG and i am good. i use speed mods and they arnt considered cheating.
i dub what u said the dumbest thing ive ever heard.
i plays 600 bpm's + if its below 400 i suck badly.
more speed helps certian peoples eyes.
man wowwww
that was so dumb what u said honestly.
if u saw my put it on x3 on a 200 bpm song and i AA or triple stard it and u called me a cheat id beat ur face in jsut for the fact ur a idiot.
ignorent people i swear
Not a good first post, bro. Cool it.
Also you won't be beating anyones faces.
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Old 06-18-2007, 07:41 PM   #29
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It makes every song faster, and the notes are evenly spread out more... I still think I would have it without the cheat code.
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Old 06-18-2007, 09:10 PM   #30
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the thing is.
why can u call it a cheat?
its not a cheat.
cheats are considerd mods, infinite things, no miss, ext...
adding speed is technicaly increaseing diffculty.
ive seen people play itg on 1200 bmp's
omg u know how hard htat is to read.
thats called skill to do that.
even if tehy have most the song mermorised.
srry for bashing on ur comment so badly.
mainly cause i play 700+ and i cant stand slowness.
should have made this a pole to see how many people think it has a cheat.
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