things about guitar hero that piss you off - Page 3

Axem Rangers · 07-19-2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by adamchristopher

THE MUSIC!

I agree with you up to there, but only because most of the choices are pretty generic and the covers suck more cock than the male groupies at a My Chemical Romance show. They need to liscence some real grunge, some real punk, some real metal, some psycadelic rock (for the ridiculously drawn out solos) and keep the original artists on all of them.

As I said earlier, WHAT DID THEY DO TO MY BAD RELIGION.

(Also, what the hell is a "female accessible" song? Girls Just Wanna Have Fun or some shit? Sounds like a sort of sexist, sterotypical thing to say.)

adamchristopher · 07-19-2006, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Axem Rangers

(Also, what the hell is a "female accessible" song? Girls Just Wanna Have Fun or some shit? Sounds like a sort of sexist, sterotypical thing to say.)

haha im not sexist, im just gay, so i tend to like more female-oriented rock songs

Axem Rangers · 07-19-2006, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by adamchristopher

haha im not sexist, im just gay, so i tend to like more female-oriented rock songs

And what is a "female-oriented rock song"? As I said, that sounds really stereotypical (as does a gay guy saying that he prefers them because he is gay, but this is neither the time nor place for that). The closest thing I can think of would be ultra feminist stuff, like Bikini Kill or some other riot grrl bands...

adamchristopher · 07-19-2006, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Axem Rangers

And what is a "female-oriented rock song"? As I said, that sounds really stereotypical (as does a gay guy saying that he prefers them because he is gay, but this is neither the time nor place for that). The closest thing I can think of would be ultra feminist stuff, like Bikini Kill or some other riot grrl bands...

Well I mean songs from bands with girl singers.

I mean like The Distillers, Jack Off Jill, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Bikini Kill, Le Tigre, just songs from good girl fronted bands. They dont have to be feminist, even though some of those bands are.

Danser · 07-20-2006, 05:55 PM

What gets me is some of the solos for the songs, the song of destruction solo kept me from beating the damn level.

And damn, can you cut the breaking wheel in half? It's a good song it's just going:
1
2
3
--1
--2
--3
-1
-2
-3
---1
---2
---3
...Etc. 10 times is really frustrating.

And why is it when you miss a note, it goes "Klingk", instead of a too flat or too sharp note?

I don't mind cover versions of some of the songs (I mean you our playing in a cover band for FSM's sake). The one that bugs me is "Take me out".

And one more thing... "Texas Flood" sucks! Could you find another song by Steve (Oh damn I forgot his last name) that doesn't have the stranging "Nuuuuu Nuu Nuuuuu Nuuu Nuuu" sound (Where the chords are 4 buttons apart.

TheHakku · 07-20-2006, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by adamchristopher

I mean like . . . Yeah Yeah Yeahs. . . .

Umm...

UMM...

Yeah Yeah Yeahs?... No... no... no.

Danser · 07-20-2006, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by adamchristopher

Well I mean songs from bands with girl singers.

I mean like The Distillers, Jack Off Jill, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Bikini Kill, Le Tigre, just songs from good girl fronted bands. They dont have to be feminist, even though some of those bands are.

Ummm... so who are The Donnas?

Camerone · 07-25-2006, 08:48 PM

i don't like people bitching about it because it is a fuckin awesome game

Eight · 07-27-2006, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Arimasen

I dislike Guitar Hero because it's too american for me. Plus I can only get about halfway through Hard. I prefer japanese games.

Heh. Quoted just because.

...and it's good to know hammer-ons and pull-offs piss off other players as well. I'd see them and simply say "Screw that, I can strum fast enough..."

If GH2 doesn't make them more doable, they might as well leave them out.

HioMrSan · 07-27-2006, 08:41 PM

I didn't feel that hammer-ons and pull-offs were broken, its just that the timing is actually strict and you need to practice. You actually have to practice and learn how to do them.

I think they need to get rid of the "Star Power" or at least change it so star power instantly boosts your rock meter to max and then goes away. It would force people to actually play the solo's instead of bullshiting their way through. Plus it would help with a lot of the "Guitar Hero is too easy" whining.

changbemani · 07-27-2006, 08:46 PM

What I regretted in guitar hero :

- training mode
- real versus mode

All three corrected in GH 2 so it rulez

and of course - speed mods

And the last one ; Graphics. But I think it's because we all have had our head breainwashed with some konami stuffs.

and beside that I prefer it to GF because :

- The songlist is awesome (not some japanese wierd unknown thing with 10 bad songs for 1 good song)
- It really rocks during the events, more than nearly any other game (only people who make events can understand that I guess ?)
- Most important ==> it is 10000 times more realistic than GF ! you can hold the lower notes like on a real guitar, you got 5 arrows so it makes you have to move your hand and that is really awesome !

Some people here say that it's the pump it up of guitar games, I'd rather say it's to GF what IIDX is to 5K : an amelioration (more buttons, better songs ...). honnestly I just don't see anything worst in GH than in DDR, excepted the graphics. These guys really made evolve the concept of Guitar game (in particular with hammer on and pull off, really greatest idea they could put on a guitar game, that is essential to me), in a place qhere konami just made 10+ Guitar freaks by Never making any single little evolution.

Konami = no excuse.

Now the only reason that makes me play GF is the band concept with drummania and 2 guitars. Drummania rocks forever.

Axem Rangers · 07-27-2006, 10:18 PM

If you think the shitty covers of mostly lackluster songs in Guitar Hero are better than most of the stuff in Guitar Freak's (incredibly expansive) library then I really am not sure what to say to you.

Also, if you've ever played guitar, Guitar Hero is not realistic. At all. It doesn't come close to playing a guitar. It's just a little closer than Guitar Freaks. Guitar Freaks tries, and succeeds, in being a fun videogame. Guitar Hero takes that videogame concept and adds one or two new aspects to it to try to make it more "realistic." And, honestly, I'd rather take the videogame over the half assed simulation.

scion_of_decay · 07-27-2006, 10:55 PM

Hmm I think this post was a little pointless so let me tear it to pieces and analyse it.

"And the last one ; Graphics. But I think it's because we all have had our head breainwashed with some konami stuffs."

Since when was GRAPHICS important in a MUSIC game 95% of the time while your playing a MUSIC game your going to look at the notes since I think you want to hit them with the best accuracy you can.

and beside that I prefer it to GF because :

- "The songlist is awesome (not some japanese wierd unknown thing with 10 bad songs for 1 good song)"

Whats wrong with weird and unknown songs its good to embrace other cultures. And there is 1 big difference between GF and GH, diversity there is much more diversity in GF that it blows GH out in that department.

-" It really rocks during the events, more than nearly any other game (only people who make events can understand that I guess ?)"

It was made mainstream for some reason while Guitar Freaks was never localised in the arcades and theres no home console version. And of course people in America will like this because THEY ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE SONGS so people will like it with konami music games its different and people can appreciate new songs to play.

- "Most important ==> it is 10000 times more realistic than GF ! you can hold the lower notes like on a real guitar, you got 5 arrows so it makes you have to move your hand and that is really awesome !"

Any game that claims to be a realistic simulator is lying you know and you should know. Its sad when people play games to simulate something and leverage that as a more important feature than having fun.

HioMrSan · 07-27-2006, 11:17 PM

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Any game that claims to be a realistic simulator is lying you know and you should know. Its sad when people play games to simulate something and leverage that as a more important feature than having fun.

So drummania is stupid because it tries to simulate actual drums?

I think he had a good point when he said GH is the Pump of Guitar games. Its is a pretty good analogy. Slight variations in core game play, huge differences in style, music, themes etc... Not to mention the fact that the japanese fanboys are getting their egos crushed when American's actually like something they can relate to instead of random Japanese songs. The same happened with Pump also.

I like Guitar Freaks, but I like GH's songs better. You know why? I'm an American! I didn't grow up listening to the songs from Guitar Freaks. I'm not Japanese! Not to mention I actually like using a guitar controller with real guitar music. The games are aimed at completely different audiences and I think much of the fanboyism over Guitar Freaks songs is simply because you love random japanese stuff. "Japanophiles" I can listen to another culture's music and enjoy it, but I'm simply not a part of that culture.

I'm obviously not saying the songs in Guitar Freaks are bad, but I just don't have that experience with them, like I do with Guitar Hero. That really plays a huge part in the music game experience. How well do you think Guitar Freaks would sell in Japan if it used all American music, yet still had the same gameplay?

Eight · 07-27-2006, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by scion_of_decay

Its sad when people play games to simulate something and leverage that as a more important feature than having fun.

I cannot believe a few of you have forgotten that simple fact. You are supposed to play games and enjoy them.

If you want to simulate something like playing the guitar, why don't you take the money you would pay for a 'guitar simulation' and buy a real guitar? A game will never compare to the real thing.