Songs with alternate versions

[Propeller_Cap]

As you guys may have noticed, some of the songs have alternate versions. So far, there are 3 types of alternate versions:

- long version: the song is MUCH longer than the original version, kinda like an extension. Usually, these types of alternate versions have very high combo counts (around the 900 range).
- speed change version: the song has a modified BPM, either faster or slower. The name will also be modified as well. The notes of the song, however, are EXACTLY the same as the original.
- console/arcade versions: it's the same song, but different depending on whether it is on console or on arcade. Not necessarily a long version of the song.

So, let me put these 7 songs into their individual categories:

Long Versions
拝啓、学校にて… (Haikei, Gakkou ni te...)
風雲！バチお先生 (Fuun! Bachio Sensei)
響け！太鼓の達人 (Hibike! Taiko no Tatsujin)
ヒカリノカナタヘ (Hikari no Kanata he)

Speed Change Versions
さいたま2000 -> はやさいたま2000 (Saitama 2000 -> Hayasaitama 2000) (faster)
きたさいたま2000 -> きたさいたま200 (Kitasaitama 2000 -> Kitasaitama 200) (slower)

Console/Arcade Versions
旋風ノ舞 (Senpuu no Mai)

My questions are here as follows:

1. If there is a long version of a song, isn't the short version pretty much obsolete? Because the long version will include anything the short version has anyway.
2. Why are there separate songs for console and arcade?
3. What exactly is the point of a slower speed changed version? It just makes the song easier, and that isn't the point of Ura maps.

Meanwhile, vote for your favorite alternate version songs. Choose multiples if you want. (I like all of them. )

[_____Cait]

What about songs where the chart changes depending on how well you do up to a certain point?

[crystalsuicune]

Originally Posted by _____Cait

What about songs where the chart changes depending on how well you do up to a certain point?

Not quite,because it's the same song,only with different charts.
Here we refer to those which have different versions of the song itself.

To me..I'm torn between Senpuu no Mai (CS) and Hibike!Taiko no Tatsujin (long).

Eh,about the problem with short versions?To me,I guess it's about the notechart.Short versions are usually harder than the long versions (Bachi osensei's an exception) while the long version...requires stamina?

For CS and AC..maybe Tatsh is too lazy to make a proper long versi-*bachi'd*

And I kinda agree that there's no point in speeding up/down songs.
Hayasaitama's clearly tougher than the original version,but...

[Propeller_Cap]

Remember, suicine, you can vote multiples.

I still think Hikari's long version is harder than its short version, because it's basically the same plus an added middle part. Same for Gakkou ni te (except it's at the second half, lol).

It's really only Hibike! that the original is harder than the long version.

And I wonder how haya-kita would work...