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Old 09-20-2009, 11:33 PM   #1
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I'm sorry if the question has been asked or answered here before. I did looked around but didn't find any information.

I'd like to buy a copy of DJMax Triology and the DJMax controller. I can't read the Korean websites listed at the official site. Is there an English website that I can buy from?

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Old 09-20-2009, 11:43 PM   #2
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Buy DJ Max Trilogy (DVD-ROM) (PC CD-ROM) - Play-Asia.com

Buy DJ Max Muse-On Controller [Limited Edition] (Windows PC) - Play-Asia.com

Buy Muse V Controller (Windows PC) - Play-Asia.com
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:39 AM   #3
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Drayne beat me too it. But yea Play-asia.com is your best bet. I bought dj max trilogy from there. Btw the dj controller is a bit clampy. I mean it works and its comfortable but its a bit loud. when pressing the buttons.
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:55 AM   #4
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try ur local gaming shops which sells ORIGINAL games .
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:10 PM   #5
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I still don't understand why people would want to buy the controller. :/
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Old 09-21-2009, 05:13 PM   #6
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I still don't understand why people would want to buy the controller. :/
I bought it just cause it makes it fun. And I just want to have the arcade experience like of Beatmania since I dont own any of the beatmania games. This is as close as it gets for me. Others may have different reasons but I only bought it cause its fun to use. Only thing that annoys me is the loud clanky noises it makes.
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Old 09-21-2009, 05:22 PM   #7
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I have the controller, and being a beatmania IIDX player, it's awesome. I don't see why people object to it. Usually, People who have complained about the controller never played IIDX before(If I'm wrong, do please correct me)
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I tried playing with the controller at PM Studios and it's awkward haha. Felt pretty solid though, I was impressed.
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Old 09-21-2009, 06:49 PM   #9
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(The following is heavily my opinion, You have been warned, so don't trot out the guns. )

Well, for any music game, the further up you go in difficulty, the more... technical the charts get and the more you can really tell that the charts were designed with a specific button layout in mind. In Trilogy's case, off the PSP series.

I'll give you an example. Some 5key/7key charts are very obviously NOT designed for the O2Jam/DJMAX Online style with spacebar for the center. They're made for two buttons covering the center lane with some ridiculous center lane spammage (e.g. Higher) There's absolutely no way you're going to do that without two buttons.

I do realize that that doesn't exactly void the design of the MUSE ON Controller seeing that it has 8 buttons, but my point is - you design gameplay around a base. Trilogy's base has obviously been the PSP series, so trying to force it onto a controller without a clear L/R split (which isn't even symmetrical in 8key mode, mind you) seems just... tacky to me.

I think the crux of my personal beef comes to how DJMAX Online was. You had sdf<space>jkl and <shift>zsxdc<space> both 'officially supported', and it was really obvious which charts were made for which. The harder charts were a complete mess because of this (although they did tend to gravitate towards sdf<space>jkl) and it really crippled gameplay, in my opinion. Here's a mid-level example - sdf<space>jkl gets completely f'ing boned on charts like Save My Dream (Sorry, couldn't find a less corny video)

After that, we go on to 2006 when Portable got released. The mess got even -worse- (my opinion at the time - keep that in mind). Now you had the two control setups in DJMAX Online plus another one with 6 buttons. What defined DJMAX then? How do you tell someone what DJMAX gameplay is like, the way you can describe DDR as 4 pads on the floor, or IIDX as 7 buttons and a turntable?

DJMAX at the time sorely needed stability in terms of gameplay design. It needed a bunch of games following the same basic setup so that skill could transfer from one title to the next.

Now, fast forward to December 2008, and you have four PSP titles and an international rerelease planned, all following/expanding on that same basic control setup in the first Portable game. That's GOOD! Congratulations DJMAX, you just got that stability I was talking about. People who have played one title can relate gameplaywise to people who played another even without touching those respective titles.

It got even better when DJMAX Online was scrapped (lack of a better word) in favor of Trilogy, whose main gameplay type was 6key, and 5/7key were based off 6key/8key instead of the old spacebar-inclusive style. Now even the PC title shared the same control setup, and the mess that was DJMAX Online's competing control schemes was nothing more than a bad memory.

And then of course, indubitably, we suddenly have this MUSE ON Controller out of the blue which just.. I don't know, completely obliterates the stability I was talking about?

Is Pentavision going to design charts with this controller in mind? Design for both the PSP setup and the controller, and go back to the cross-setup mess that DJMAX Online was?

Sorry for the long rant, but I guess I've been thinking about music games a whole lot these few years. :/

Three things I hope you guys realize here:

1) I'm not begrudging people who bought the controller. If you have it, enjoy playing Trilogy with it, and kick ass, more power to you.

2) I'm not against the control setup. I love IIDX, I have a lovingly modded KOC (can't invest in a DJDAO at the moment) and I pop in the PS2 CSes quite often. I enjoy IIDX gameplay because the charts were designed with the controller in mind, first and foremost.

3) Despite my DJMAX Online bashing, I loved that game as well. If a DJMAX existed today with a 7key sdf<space>jkl setup, I'd be all over it alongside the PSP titles. As it is now, I'm forcing myself to play Trilogy's 7key with asdf jkl; using space for Fever, because it's just... I don't know, good form (lack of a better term) I guess?

If you read the entireity of this post, I really want to say 'thanks'. I don't often allow myself to speak my mind, and I guess it's good to share my thoughts once in a while.

Last but not least, Technika plays different enough that it's in my mind a completely different music game with the same media (and I love the concept!), same way DDR and IIDX share some tracks. That's miles different from the we-can't-decide-which-buttons-we-want-the-players-to-hit mess I'm ranting about above.

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Old 09-21-2009, 10:19 PM   #10
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The controller seems useless, as the game itself doesn't take advantage of its features at all.

After updating to the latest patch to see that Trilogy has added support to the Muse controller, I thought that some of the charts might change to take advantage of the scratch disc on the controller.

Turns out nothing changes at all when you plug it in. Thankfully, I came across this video demonstrating the Muse On controller before even thinking about purchasing one: YouTube - DJmax Trilogy + Muse-on!

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Old 09-22-2009, 01:04 AM   #11
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Thanks guys. Just ordered on Play-Aisa. I came by play-asia via google search once before. I guess it was linked to an old listing which was sold out. Anyway, I ordered the game and the controller. Hoping it will be more fun with the controller.

This is a great forum. I found the DJmax teknica location near my place. I'll go there this week.

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After updating to the latest patch to see that Trilogy has added support to the Muse controller, I thought that some of the charts might change to take advantage of the scratch disc on the controller.[/url]
That's exactly what I was afraid might/will happen and would be the absolute worst thing that could happen to the DJMAX franchise based on the original online service's greatest failing. D:
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but if they plan to include an "alternate chart" which is designed for muse-on's configuration and can only be unlocked by using that controller, then it's fine.
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Old 09-22-2009, 04:20 AM   #14
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I guess I shouldn't complain about more gameplay content if that happened, but it still seems... messy. :/
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Old 09-23-2009, 06:07 AM   #15
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I'll give you an example. Some 5key/7key charts are very obviously NOT designed for the O2Jam/DJMAX Online style with spacebar for the center. They're made for two buttons covering the center lane with some ridiculous center lane spammage (e.g. Higher) There's absolutely no way you're going to do that without two buttons.
O2Jam's Aiming High, anyone? And it's possible to FC it.

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I think the crux of my personal beef comes to how DJMAX Online was. You had sdf<space>jkl and <shift>zsxdc<space> both 'officially supported', and it was really obvious which charts were made for which. The harder charts were a complete mess because of this (although they did tend to gravitate towards sdf<space>jkl) and it really crippled gameplay, in my opinion. Here's a mid-level example - sdf<space>jkl gets completely f'ing boned on charts like Save My Dream (Sorry, couldn't find a less corny video)
I wasn't aware of that ZSXDC setup - gotta thank you for mentioning this; kinda explains a lot for me when I was struggling with some of their notecharts back then.
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