Bemani and other music games... in a post-PS2 world?

[Eight]

So, seeing as the PS2 is pretty much phased out in the US, and will likely suffer the same fate in Japan... where do you guys think Bemani and Company is going to go from there? What's going to happen to the giant pile of controllers we all have stored up in the years of Playstation and PS2 releases?

I'm sure this has been brought up before (at least tangentally or something) -- but discuss?

[noisy doll☆]

It has been argued in several other forums that the nature of Bemani games doesn't require the new technology, and that the continued widespread ownership of PS2's in Japan will probably discourage companies like Konami from making everybody switch any time soon.

[Ashura96]

Originally Posted by noisy doll☆

It has been argued in several other forums that the nature of Bemani games doesn't require the new technology, and that the continued widespread ownership of PS2's in Japan will probably discourage companies like Konami from making everybody switch any time soon.

As far as BEMANI game are concerned that seems all well, but already are American music games (GH and Rock Band) are on the newer systems, but the fact that they are on the PS2 as well also agrees with the fact that we don't need new hardware or technology for this.

So far I think the ONLY advantage to moving on up is being able to have more songs on the game disc and the use of DLC.

And seems rather unfortunate that Microsoft could not get off their lazy asses and make the Ultramix games work on the 360, so it seems compatibility issues aren't going to go away anytime soon.

[red shoe paul]

I can see them coming to the PS3.

I told others this, and I'm not going to be surprised if this happens. FACT: The PS3 is region free and as of right now, has no way of playing backed up Playstation 3 titles.

I'm sure Konami knows this, and because of all the piracy with Bemani related games, I can see them switching to PS3.

[Jeff Paine]

I can't see them switching to PS3 until the PS2 is pretty much dead

I'm sure they'd lose more sales by switching over to a system not many people have than they are currently losing to piracy

[Loveless!!]

Originally Posted by UseMyExciter

I can't see them switching to PS3 until the PS2 is pretty much dead

I'm sure they'd lose more sales by switching over to a system not many people have than they are currently losing to piracy

I agree with his statement because there are still many games coming out for the ps2 in Japan and until the sales or the development of games stop then I don't think they would turn over to the ps3 anytime soon. Also having more songs would be nice but until the things are final, we can only wait and see what BEMANI will do.

[ranatalus]

paul aren't there problems with using 3rd party controllers for PS3? that kind of kills bemani.

[GA.Mole]

Originally Posted by ranatalus

paul aren't there problems with using 3rd party controllers for PS3? that kind of kills bemani.

Hori already released several joysticks for the PS3. Those are all 3rd party, and they work just fine. Konami doesn't make "unofficial" controllers (for lack of a better term). Their stuff always has the PlayStation logo on it, which means they are officially "sanctioned" peripherals. Whatever problems some people are running into are problems I don't think Konami would run into.

[ranatalus]

ah ok

admittedly i have not been keeping up on the ps3 much since i have practically no interest in ever owning one

[red shoe paul]

Plus Sony's official adapter hasn't even come out yet..

I just bet once consoles start selling in Japan only, we'll be seeing Bemani on the PS3. Possibly another year or so after all the lined up games for 2008/2009 come out.

[Resonance|ESK]

When it comes to games like GH and RB, they can stand to make a transition since there is a much higher emphasis on visual style and appeal. When was the last time you played IIDX and watched the video anytime other than when you have a free measure or you put it on auto play? Exactly.

Konami doesn't need to make any switches right now since that would alienate a majority of their userbase.

Other than more space per disk (and no, you still couldn't fit the IIDX14 HDD on one disk.) there are no real draws to making your userbase rebuy everything and upgrade, Sony brand official adapter or not.

[t7r]

I can already imagine the games after GFDM V5, IIDX 15, pop'n 16 and DDR (the one that comes after SN2):

Guitar Freaks HD & DrumMania HD: High Definition Rock!

beatmania IIHDX: HDDJ

pop'n music 17: HI-DEF CELEBRATION

DDRHD: Dance Dance Revolution SuperHIGH-DEF

I think Next-gen Bemani might come in a long time. I still wish Konami would release an SN2 port for the PS3, with all remaining songs that aren't on the NA CS PS2 version.

[Monster in a box]

The PS2 is pretty much phased out? Last I checked, PS2 games were stilling come out a pretty consistent rate. Maybe not quite as consistent as with next-gen games, but not far behind at all.

[TranceDance]

There is really no need to go to PS3 (or Wii or 360 for that matter) for an increase in storage on the disc. Home version of most Bemani games are only 1-2GBs. With the ability to fit 8.5GB on a dual layer DVD (that the PS2 is capable of reading) it would a super compilation containing all of the songs of at least 10 Bemani games to fill a dual layer DVD (barring any major changes to the engine and interface of course).

[ChaosMaster]

They kept making DDR games for PS1 well into the PS2's life, didn't they? They'll probably do something similar with the PS2.