Gas Prices.

[Hiryuu]

$3.96 for 93 octane premium where I go (3.84 for 87 Unleaded). Considering the price difference, I usually drop premium in and baby my old thing. :\

[SF1]

Originally Posted by Fred 00

There is no gas shortage, it's just we've already drilled up the easy stuff.

There is, supposedly, a LARGE amount of oil in/around the Californian coastline. But the reason why we don't drill there? Because people think that oil rigs would disturb their pretty view of the ocean

gotta love our priorties

Honestly...does a view get your car to work? No! I don't want to have to push my car downhill, so they'd better start drilling.

[kimcicle]

Originally Posted by Hiryuu

$3.96 for 93 octane premium where I go (3.84 for 87 Unleaded). Considering the price difference, I usually drop premium in and baby my old thing. :\

This is the mentality more people need to have. If you desire to extend your gas mileage, change your driving habits!

There are way too many retarded people out there (my mom / older sister included) who have switched to regular 87 octane for their vehicles (2208 Mercedes Benz E550 / C350, respectively). They are saving a few bucks now, but their vehicles are going to run crappier than giving the engines the premium they require.

If your car requires premium, stay on it. If not, you're wasting your money on premium.

[TTRlovesMittens]

Originally Posted by SF1

Honestly...does a view get your car to work? No! I don't want to have to push my car downhill, so they'd better start drilling.

Misinformation like this pisses me off. You know that oil dependency is one the greatest threats to not only our economy as a country, but our environment as well? Not only in the fact of global warming, but offshore drilling hurts the ecosystems of everything around it, which can interrupt not only us environmentally, but also economically. We fish in our water, and if the ecosystems of the fish we collect are disrupted, the fish market will decline, let alone hundreds of thousands of environmentalists will be pissed off. Not only fish, but other animals are watched by watchdog groups. We can't risk letting countless species be put at risk just because you wanna be lazy and drive down the street D:

And not only that but those pretty beaches are one of the main sources of our tourist economy. Without them and the weather we have, California wouldn't be California.

So you know what? Find you're own damn oil and stop thinking about your own selfish needs. Take the bus/train/carpool/mass transit like some smart Californians/New Yorkers/Anyone else who was smart enough to start decent mass transit.

[June.H]

Originally Posted by kimcicle

Gas prices go up, deal with it. The same thing happened when gas broke $3 a gallon at the pump; people learned how to live with it.

In short, I don't care where gas prices are. The difference between gas at $3 to $4 is maybe $15 a tank. Cut out the Starbucks and you'll be ok. Cut out the cable tv and you'll be fine. Cut out one designer pair of jeans and you'll be fine. If your budget is so shoestring that you can't cushion a $15 per tank deviance (or ~$60 a month if you fill up once a week), then you have bigger problems than gas prices.

You have valid points, but there's a flaw or two (or at the least, a negative cause-and-effect).

Yes, people are forced to live with it, because now they're going broke if they continue their lifestyle. However, there's a problem when people stop buying their luxuries. Companies go out of business, people lose jobs, all as a result because of falling profits. What is one reason for the economic stimulus package? So people can spend because they've been doing more saving than spending, hurting business. People don't save on one little thing, they save by the boatload. If they don't have to go out and eat, they won't, but what says they won't cut more than one corner besides just going out to eat? They probably will cut other habits as well.

It also doesn't help that everything else has gone up in price, discouraging more spending.

If people as a whole were more sensible, then thing might be working out better than they are now.

But anyway, that's one reason why I ended up buying a new Corolla instead of a used WRX STi. I'd much be happier with 37 MPG instead of about 22.

If your car requires premium, stay on it. If not, you're wasting your money on premium.

And that's what people don't realize. Some cars are designed for premium and the label is there for a reason. Just because you bought a super expensive nice car doesn't mean you can treat it like shi+. If you can't afford to put in premium, rather than junking up your car, buy one that can take the low-grade.

[sнυи]

Doesn't using a lower grade gas hurt the engine too? Like summat with the combustion. Dad told me, forgot what he said.

I'm sure if you took some hypermiling techniques (the realistic ones, not the dangerousasfck shit) in that STi you could probably squeeze out 30 easy. ;b

My dad already pays for premium so he said since he's already paying for premium, may as well get a nicer car that gets better mileage. :] He's now lookin' into an S2000.

[dat shit cray]

Originally Posted by kimcicle

Nope, just an informed citizen.

That argument ALWAYS comes up in GBS "FUCK GAS PRICE" threads in just about the same wording you put it.

Originally Posted by TTR_loves_Mittens

We can't risk letting countless species be put at risk just because you wanna be lazy and drive down the street D:

I'm not sure about the figures here but I don't think that it's lazy people that are doing the most damage to the ecosystem.

Originally Posted by TTR_loves_Mittens

So you know what? Find you're own damn oil and stop thinking about your own selfish needs. Take the bus/train/carpool/mass transit like some smart Californians/New Yorkers/Anyone else who was smart enough to start decent mass transit.

Infrastructure and mass transit in most areas of the country are poorly planned, so taking the bus or train or whatnot isn't as "smart" as you make it out to be. For many people.

p.s. you're

[SF1]

Originally Posted by TTR_loves_Mittens

Misinformation like this pisses me off. You know that oil dependency is one the greatest threats to not only our economy as a country, but our environment as well? Not only in the fact of global warming, but offshore drilling hurts the ecosystems of everything around it, which can interrupt not only us environmentally, but also economically. We fish in our water, and if the ecosystems of the fish we collect are disrupted, the fish market will decline, let alone hundreds of thousands of environmentalists will be pissed off. Not only fish, but other animals are watched by watchdog groups. We can't risk letting countless species be put at risk just because you wanna be lazy and drive down the street D:

And not only that but those pretty beaches are one of the main sources of our tourist economy. Without them and the weather we have, California wouldn't be California.

So you know what? Find you're own damn oil and stop thinking about your own selfish needs. Take the bus/train/carpool/mass transit like some smart Californians/New Yorkers/Anyone else who was smart enough to start decent mass transit.

You ever stop to think? I mean, just in general?

[raven_tkar]

LOOK GAS PRICES ARE GOING DOWN, WE'RE WINNING THE WAR!

[Fuchikoma]

Gas Prices are the reason your cousin is not coming to Comic-con with me tomorrow GAAAAAAAAAAAH D:<

[kimcicle]

Originally Posted by Shun

Doesn't using a lower grade gas hurt the engine too? Like summat with the combustion. Dad told me, forgot what he said.

I'm sure if you took some hypermiling techniques (the realistic ones, not the dangerousasfck shit) in that STi you could probably squeeze out 30 easy. ;b

My dad already pays for premium so he said since he's already paying for premium, may as well get a nicer car that gets better mileage. :] He's now lookin' into an S2000.

Lower octane gas means that it requires less compression before it will ignite on it's own, rather than due to the spark from the spark plug. A good way to get higher horsepower is to increase the compression, therefore performance vehicles usually run a higher compression ratio than standard vehicles. The higher compression will cause gas of lower octane to ignite before the spark plug goes off, causing what it known as "pinging", which is -very- bad for your engine. If your car can handle the lowest octane without pinging, you'll be ok running that type of gas.

S2K gets decent gas mileage just as long as you keep the top up all the time and stay out of VTEC.

Originally Posted by PSYCHO KILLER

That argument ALWAYS comes up in GBS "FUCK GAS PRICE" threads in just about the same wording you put it.

Maybe I'm the one that started it, did you ever think of that?

Originally Posted by SF1

You ever stop to think? I mean, just in general?

Kettle, meet pot.

Originally Posted by June.H

You have valid points, but there's a flaw or two (or at the least, a negative cause-and-effect).

Yes, people are forced to live with it, because now they're going broke if they continue their lifestyle. However, there's a problem when people stop buying their luxuries. Companies go out of business, people lose jobs, all as a result because of falling profits. What is one reason for the economic stimulus package? So people can spend because they've been doing more saving than spending, hurting business. People don't save on one little thing, they save by the boatload. If they don't have to go out and eat, they won't, but what says they won't cut more than one corner besides just going out to eat? They probably will cut other habits as well.

It also doesn't help that everything else has gone up in price, discouraging more spending.

If people as a whole were more sensible, then thing might be working out better than they are now.

Yeah, but that would be market forces at work, which would be nice (IMO). The dumbest luxuries would be the first to go, the markets would realign, and eventually we'd be back on our feet. And for those economic stimulus checks? Online polls pointed to that people were going to either save it, or use it to pay down debts rather than jump start the economy.

[raven_tkar]

Originally Posted by Fuchikoma

Gas Prices are the reason your cousin is not coming to Comic-con with me tomorrow GAAAAAAAAAAAH D:<

AND INSTEAD COMING TO VISIT ME

HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL FUCHI, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY MILES IT IS TO DRIVE UP HERE FROM IRVINE all that gas.

[sнυи]

Originally Posted by kimcicle

S2K gets decent gas mileage just as long as you keep the top up all the time and stay out of VTEC.

Yeah I've been readin' up and bRos getting 25+ in their S2000s.

I haven't kicked in VTEC in my Fit since the first week. :< NOT THAT YOU CAN NOTICE IT FUCK

[Blackraven]

I remember a commercial in my country.

"We all know that fuel prices are going up........but before you go look for cheaper fuel, take a look at another important thing: THE OCTANE RATING. Use the right octane rated fuel and you get more for your money "

I haven't kicked in VTEC in my Fit since the first week. :< NOT THAT YOU CAN NOTICE IT FUCK

Not sure as to what you mean by this.

In the case of your GE, the i-VTEC is already a part of the L-series engine. From what I understand, the i-VTEC system involves variable camshaft phasing on both intake and exhaust sides.

At least that's how I remember it.

[raven_tkar]

Originally Posted by Blackraven

Not sure as to what you mean by this.

YO

VTEC JUST KICKED IN