Hit and Run in Hartford, CT...

Hiryuu · 06-06-2008, 01:24 PM

See local story.

Can't be asked to help the guy can we?

Cell-phones at the very best...guess no one knew first aid. :\

TyTigeriku · 06-06-2008, 02:54 PM

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All bruised and broken bleeding,
she asks to take my hand.
I turn just keep on walking.
But you'd do the same thing in the circumstance I'm sure you understand.

This is truly a sad story. Geez, I would've at least stopped and tried to help any way I could!

***red shoe paul*** · 06-06-2008, 03:11 PM

Well it looks like cops were called immediately by somebody almost immediately after it happened. Why are people saying nobody helped? Not really sure why that first guy in the car didn't see him and still decided to go around..

Hiryuu · 06-06-2008, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by red shoe paul

Well it looks like cops were called immediately by somebody almost immediately after it happened. Why are people saying nobody helped? Not really sure why that first guy in the car didn't see him and still decided to go around..

The contrary to that being said was that the cop that arrived was off-duty and saw it across the street regardless of the calls.

Honestly, there really isn't an answer to this one for all the details that I've dug up. It's one of those 'the truth got lost somewhere in the drive-by media'.

WiLLiSTER · 06-06-2008, 05:33 PM

I find it funny that people see him and then just kinda stay at the sidewalk for a while. The way society reacts is a bit scary...

Ztype · 06-06-2008, 05:53 PM

If I was driving I certainly would have stopped and called 911, if I were walking by yeah I would have called but nothing more. With the way the legal system is in the country I wouldn't even go near the guy for fear that I'm gonna get sued by him or his family for attempting to help him and ending up causing damage.

People have gotten sued for performing CPR. I'm certified for that but I would never considering performing it on anyone outside family and close friends. At least not in America

BemaniAK · 06-06-2008, 07:20 PM

god, I would've at least got him off the damn road...

Lovless · 06-06-2008, 07:44 PM

Well, the first thing I remember is that you're not supposed to move or touch a person who has been hit in order to minimize damage and injury unless you know for sure you can do it safely and without causing more injuries. As long as they called for help that is good and try to steer traffic around.

Its always a tough call to make between helping and providing help.

*PSYCHO KILLER* · 06-06-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ztype

With the way the legal system is in the country I wouldn't even go near the guy for fear that I'm gonna get sued by him or his family for attempting to help him and ending up causing damage.

People have gotten sued for performing CPR. I'm certified for that but I would never considering performing it on anyone outside family and close friends. At least not in America

The United States of America has Good Samaritan laws, so that's absolute bullshit. As long as you obtain consent, or consent is implied (the victim cannot respond), and you are trained and certified to perform first aid, you cannot be prosecuted for (reasonably) helping. That means if you do everything properly per training, any suit brought against you will be thrown out.

Whoever certified you in CPR should have explained this.

Also, loveless is right, it would have been a bad idea to move him off the road. While someone could have stopped to check if he was bleeding, or possibly splint up a limb, there's not much else a civilian responder could do. Also it's understandable that no one stopped. Most people's brains freeze up when they see that kind of thing, especially in a car.

Ztype · 06-07-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dieKrüpke88

The United States of America has Good Samaritan laws, so that's absolute bullshit. As long as you obtain consent, or consent is implied (the victim cannot respond), and you are trained and certified to perform first aid, you cannot be prosecuted for (reasonably) helping. That means if you do everything properly per training, any suit brought against you will be thrown out.

Whoever certified you in CPR should have explained this.

Also, loveless is right, it would have been a bad idea to move him off the road. While someone could have stopped to check if he was bleeding, or possibly splint up a limb, there's not much else a civilian responder could do. Also it's understandable that no one stopped. Most people's brains freeze up when they see that kind of thing, especially in a car.

You can easily break someone's rib or ribs compressing on someone's chest even if done properly, especially if they've just been flattened by a car. Yes they have Good Samaritan laws in every state, but those like many other laws can be worked around and interpreted in the favor of the victim, especially if there are no witnesses that also happen to be CPR certified to argue that you did it properly and in "good faith"

Honestly the law does favor the bystander but in most states if you decide to help someone you're also automatically liable for their safety. So there's no way I'm going to go the extra mile for some stranger who most likely wouldn't do the same for me. I'd rather the professionals handled it.