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Old 12-20-2007, 09:23 PM   #31
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Oddly enough, it does not prohibit you to send someone something like "Fuck This Face, Then Your Butt" or other types of porn.
man if they ever did that to FTFTMB I would just cry

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something about CP-esque hentai. "loli" if you will
I actually dont care about loli anymore, so this doesnt affect me~
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Old 12-21-2007, 01:45 AM   #32
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loli is not CP

CP is CP

CP is bad
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Old 12-21-2007, 03:07 AM   #33
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loli is not CP
Loli - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Loli may refer to:
  • Lolicon, a type of adult manga, anime, or computer graphics.
  • Internet slang for a little girl (age 4-17), especially in a sexual context.
PROTIP: Lolicon (abbv. LOLI) depicts little girls in a sexual context! LOLI IS CP, YOU TWAT
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Old 12-21-2007, 03:09 AM   #34
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PROTIP: Lolicon (abbv. LOLI) depicts little girls in a sexual context! LOLI IS CP, YOU TWAT
I know what lolicon is dickwad, im going to report you now for looking it up on wikipedia
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Old 12-23-2007, 12:28 PM   #35
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Won't comment on too much of this. Definitely could see there being all types of holes in this law, but whatever. Key notes:

-All hentai is pretty much going to be considered CP if they want it to be. Here is why: legally speaking, in animated pornography, it is impossible to accurately determine the age of depiction, and as such, if you get caught with it, expect to have a tooth and nail fight as they throw the book at you. I know, I've seen someone get in serious trouble for some 4 months ago for the very same reason. Let's just say, he did not win that fight.

-Most computer users are at best computer illiterate, and as such have no idea about how to detect such a thing if it's going on with their networks. I need only point you at the prolificness of botnets.

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Old 12-26-2007, 12:08 AM   #36
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The main problem is that there's no way you can detect what's being transferred over the Wireless connectionwithout using Magical hacker toolds no one knows of. if anything, you should know who's on your wireless at all times, and Check MAC Addresses to see who has been on it. It's all about Wireless security, which doesn't really exist in the real world.
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Old 12-27-2007, 08:02 PM   #37
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-Don't knock Ron Paul, he's totally awesome for the most part >.>.
actually he's a shithead so go ahead and get bent thanks
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The main problem is that there's no way you can detect what's being transferred over the Wireless connectionwithout using Magical hacker toolds no one knows of. if anything, you should know who's on your wireless at all times, and Check MAC Addresses to see who has been on it. It's all about Wireless security, which doesn't really exist in the real world.
you don't need magical hacker tools no one knows of to tell that your creepy neighbor who brags about his emma watson photo collection is on your wireless network, disconnect him, and then anonymously report him as suspicious
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Old 12-28-2007, 01:50 AM   #38
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you don't need magical hacker tools no one knows of to tell that your creepy neighbor who brags about his emma watson photo collection is on your wireless network, disconnect him, and then anonymously report him as suspicious
yes but i didn't need new legislation to tell me that
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Old 12-28-2007, 05:23 PM   #39
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yes but i didn't need new legislation to tell me that
Some people respond to threats better than they do common sense

This is for those people among whom you are obviously not included
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Some people respond to threats better than they do common sense

This is for those people among whom you are obviously not included
I'm well aware, but somehow I think the bill was not intended for the rare occasion of "get the weird guy off my router what's he doing on there eww", but it seems like it was intended to make people monitor their network traffic, which as we've discussed is pretty much impossible.

I have no moral opposition to the bill, it's just something that's incredibly shortsighted. I can't see a single instance where "but seriously I didn't know what he was downloading" wouldn't be a proper defense against allegations incurred by this new law.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:18 AM   #41
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PROTIP: Lolicon (abbv. LOLI) depicts little girls in a sexual context! LOLI IS CP, YOU TWAT
Child pornography (y legal definition) does not consider lolicon as CP, since it is a picture, and therefore art. Also, a drawing of a child does not equate to a child, like how a picture of a sandwich does not make it an actual sandwich. Also, wrong context:

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# Lolicon, a type of adult manga, anime, or computer graphics
THIS is the definition being referred to in this thread, since obviously they aren't saying "CP is banned", but rather "lolicon/hentai is banned", otherwise, they would be making a law based on a law THAT ALREADY EXISTS.

So in short, I am right, and you are wrong, and you're also an idiot for trying to distort the context of the word being used in this case.
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Old 12-29-2007, 11:02 AM   #42
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Hrm yes masturbating to the cartoon depiction of a five year old getting railed is well within my rights as an American citizen

You're disgusting
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I have no intention of derailing the thread too much. Firstly, as I previously stated, most hentai depicts characters with an age that cannot be accurately determined, if only due to the style of anime. Secondly, toddlercon is it's own little slice of fucked up, so we'll leave that one be (in case it isn't obvious, that'd be what you're referring to IBF).

Lastly, I am curious as to what basis by which you dub Ron Paul a shithead. While I know libertarianism has it's obvious faults, I do wish to know which of his espoused doctrines you take offense to (perhaps in PM where appropriate), if only because I seek to understand your position on the matter. Only being a mere student in uni and drudge in the corporate machine, I can't allow any unfounded conceit to blind me to the opinions of others (though I can use it to type longwinded rhetoric).
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Old 12-29-2007, 09:26 PM   #44
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Toddlerkon makes me cry. Lolicon is iffy, but that applies to anyone drawn under the age of 18, which could apply to 9/10 pieces of hentai, simply because there's no age listed in most of them. If it's blatantly obvious though, I'm all for the sick fuck going to prison.

Jailbait will be the next thing to go, I'm pretty sure.

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I have no intention of derailing the thread too much. Firstly, as I previously stated, most hentai depicts characters with an age that cannot be accurately determined, if only due to the style of anime.
Is it that you were rejected by the adult cartoon characters

Is that it
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Lastly, I am curious as to what basis by which you dub Ron Paul a shithead. While I know libertarianism has it's obvious faults, I do wish to know which of his espoused doctrines you take offense to (perhaps in PM where appropriate), if only because I seek to understand your position on the matter. Only being a mere student in uni and drudge in the corporate machine, I can't allow any unfounded conceit to blind me to the opinions of others (though I can use it to type longwinded rhetoric).
congratulations you are why i hate libertarians
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