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Akatsuki0 · 09-08-2006, 05:03 PM

i've had a question burning inside my head for a while, and obviously i want to ask it. anyway, my question is, If English teachers aren't allowed to teach the Bible, then why are Science (or Biology) teachers allowed to teach evolution? Isn't that a bit ...hypocritical? (i guess...i can't find the right word). This is a serious question (well at least to me), so please don't degrade me for it. I really would only like honest opinions.

DeusExMachina · 09-08-2006, 05:08 PM

The 1st amendment states that no government based organization will promote any religion more than another. Public schools are government property so public school staff are prohibited from promoting campaigning any religion. If the school taught the teachings of Bhudda that would be bad to the christians etc. The students are allowed to form clubs and organizations within school to promote religious beliefs however. Only private schools are allowed to do that.

Science is not a religion

I'll give you props for raising a post that is actually somewhat intelligent.

Religion: belief by faith
Science: belief by experimentation, observation, reasoning and logic. Darwin's theory of evolution is a science.

BanYa4eVr · 09-08-2006, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Akatsuki0

i've had a question burning inside my head for a while, and obviously i want to ask it. anyway, my question is, If English teachers aren't allowed to teach the Bible, then why are Science (or Biology) teachers allowed to teach evolution? Isn't that a bit ...hypocritical? (i guess...i can't find the right word). This is a serious question (well at least to me), so please don't degrade me for it. I really would only like honest opinions.

That is a very good honest question.

I'll answer it as best I can.

Hmm. The Bible can not be taught in any school except a school onto which you are going to for the sole purpose of learning about the Bible.
It is a right of the people to not have to be succumbed by religion.
To further answer your question, if they are not trying to force the concept of God onto you, and just going over it's context, then I don't know why.

The Biology teachers and some Science teachers are allowed to teach evolution because evolution is not a form of religion. And you don't HAVE to believe in anything that teacher says, so all is well. Seccondly, what would you like your average Biology teacher to teach if he wasn't allowed to talk about evolution? It is the primary base of that class.

I hope no offense at all was taken to you heavily religious folk out there.

I hope I answered your question.

A little late tho.

Akatsuki0 · 09-08-2006, 05:32 PM

thanks, that does answer my question, but know i have another, couldnt one consider evolution like atheism? which sortof falls under the category of religion, or lack there of (of religion that is), or am i just being stupid?

Axem Rangers · 09-08-2006, 05:38 PM

See, thing is, evolution isn't a theroy. It's a fact. It happens. You can see it just by looking at isolated cases (peppered moths, some recent humans being born without appendexs, etc.). All the theroies involving evolution concern what humans evolved from. But there's no question that evolution happens.

DeusExMachina · 09-08-2006, 06:00 PM

aetheism i believe is going against religion. Science by no means makes any attacks on christianity. Its theories of creation are different, but science has always been independent of religion.

*dat shit cray* · 09-08-2006, 06:16 PM

The Bible dicates that man was created by God.

However, there are some Christians out there that are willing to read Genesis in a metaphorical sense to have it coincide with their scientific teachings!

Also science is not atheism. I'm sure if scientists could prove that the story of Genesis to be fact, it would be taught in classes. However, the concept of religion as a scientific fact is fairly ridiculous.

dog$ · 09-08-2006, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Akatsuki0

couldnt one consider evolution like atheism? which sortof falls under the category of religion, or lack there of

Atheism is defined as not being a religion.

Something that is defined as not classified by X doesn't fall under the category of X.

DeusExMachina · 09-08-2006, 06:33 PM

Akatsuki0 based on your knowledge of creationism, may I ask how old do you think the Earth is?

Akatsuki0 · 09-08-2006, 07:08 PM

i bet many people could answer this question.. but i dont have an idea.....you know i'm going tostop worrying about science, and just stick with what i good at math...speaking of which i need to get batteries for my calculator so i can finish my calc. homework....anyway thank you everybody...hmm i wonder how many different times i can say thank you (dont ask why i'm thinking of this.. i think i just had too much sugar...this wont take long)
Thank you
Thanks
Yo ma homedogs thanks (...yeah remind me never to say that again)
arigatou
merci beaucoup
gracias (sp?)
graci (once again sp?)
yup told you it wouldnt take long

*dat shit cray* · 09-08-2006, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Akatsuki0

i bet many people could answer this question.. but i dont have an idea.....

The reason he asked you is because there was actually no defined date for the creation in the Bible, however, when read literally it is stated that six days after the Earth itself was created, Man was created. If you literally read this as six twenty-four hour days passed between the two events, the Earth could not be more than 250,000 years old, which is the accepted date for the appearance of homo sapiens on Earth.

So what he was really doing by asking you is to see whether you believe in the literal interperetation of Genesis or not.

Novasonic of /flex · 09-09-2006, 12:32 AM

The only tie that evolution has to religion is the whole debate about evolution vs. creationism. Creationism deals directly with the Bible, which is not proven to be scientifically true. However, evolution, while still not scientifically proven to be true, by itself has no ties to the Bible or religion. And from what I understood, it was taught as a theory, not as fact, which is more than fair in my book. It's just like teaching about Dr. Whozitwatzits theory of vapor emissions, it's a theory, just like the theory of evolution.

If they said they couldn't teach evolution in science either, scientists could almost destroy the class by saying that they then couldn't teach any scientific theories at all, which half of science is/is based on.

*TTRlovesMittens* · 09-09-2006, 12:37 AM

Wait a second, what's the difference between intelligent design and creationism?

*phuzion* · 09-09-2006, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TTR_loves_Mittens

Wait a second, what's the difference between intelligent design and creationism?

Intelligent design, IIRC, states that a higher being created the first life forms (think single cell organisms and such), but those forms evolved on their own. Which is basically the "clockmaker" perspective of creationism.

*dat shit cray* · 09-09-2006, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Novasonic of /flex

It's just like teaching about Dr. Whozitwatzits theory of vapor emissions, it's a theory, just like the theory of evolution.

Gravity is also a theory.