[Question] How illegal/legal this is?

[xybur]

Originally Posted by Revolver Koala

I think it has something to do with Pump being nine times more fun than DDR

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[GOD GODDY]

RK has a point, there. Since I started playing PIU I've been having a bit more fun, but maybe that's because it's just a new challenge.

Bar raping in PIU is good for the abs, by the way.

[Razer]

I think it's legal since I'm fairly confident that Bemanistyle got permission for Andamiro to host them on the sitee. It has been pointed out several times on the old forums by the mods that BMS is on good terms with Andamiro and they wouldn't risk anything to ruin it. They did not allow clean Zero background images until they got an okay from Andamiro themselves, so if they can host the PIU vids, then they must have gotten an approval from them personally. They know that this site exists and that there are downloads, so that means they are okay with Bemanistyle hosting their original background videos.

EDIT: So many typos.

[xybur]

I kind of like PIU, but I have recently found doubles on a ddr, and being able to play doubles, joint premium on a 5th mix machine for 50 cents for 5 songs really makes me think that its worth it to start practicing.

[Razer]

Originally Posted by xybur

I kind of like PIU, but I have recently found doubles on a ddr, and being able to play doubles, joint premium on a 5th mix machine for 50 cents for 5 songs really makes me think that its worth it to start practicing.

The great thing about PIU is that you don't have to pay extra money to play doubles.

[xybur]

Yeah, but pump doubles for me are impossible :p

[Revolver Koala]

I didn't really get into Pump doubles at all until I was up into the mid-range Crazy songs. Then I kinda tried some stuff on Freestyle and pretty quickly worked my way up into Nightmare. DDR doubles are pretty fun compared to DDR not-doubles; I rarely play singles on DDR anymore. I find Pump doubles to be way more fun than DDR doubles, though. The pad layout flows a lot better once you get used to it.

Yeah, the only DDR machine I ever really play on is the 4th+ at a nearby arcade, which has joint premium on. Also, how are doubles in ITG? I've heard really bad things about it, and I'm not fond of the game in general, but I found out there's an ITG2 somewhat close to me and I've been thinking of trying it out.

[xybur]

Doubles on ITG, as I understand it, get progressively worse as the difficulty increases. They start of pretty well flowing and fun to play on easy settings, but once you get to hard and expert, the songs become stupid and you commonly see large amounts of arrows to press (sometimes 4 to 5 at a time, one song has 6) and you get funky 1p and 2p up or even worse 1p up to 2p down presses that just aren't fun.

[eddie]

Well, as far as most of the media goes it's fine if you host it elsewhere. the Adnamiro ones aren't really though because we have direct permission from Andamiro to host them, and that's why our Zero videos (and soon the others) have a bemanistyle watermark. I don't know the exact terms to our current agreement on them, but I'll ask the guy who got it all setup for us and post back here with it. I don't want anyone to get attacked for something we made available.

[June.H]

Once you download the video, it's pretty much your own business what you do with it. Andamiro did give us the OK on hosting them provided that the videoes were downsampled considerably from their original quality, and be in a condition that they couldn't be used in a simulator (like KIU) so that someone could make a bootleg machine with the BGA's from the original game.

So in short, it's pretty much your business what you do with the videoes.

[-Miz-]

None of this is illegal. All of it is "potential infringement", so you're technically opening yourself up to civil action by the copyright holders. However, these days it seems pretty unlikely anybody will actually care. Note that I'm speaking for US copyright law, but copyright law seems to be converging onto a common level of crappiness these days.

In the US, it's only "illegal" if you circumvent a protection device to do your copying. Then it's ten years/$10 000 for you. (I'm not sure if that's per offense or not.)

Since BMS apparently has some sort of agreement with Andamiro, though, I'd say it would be common courtesy not to redistribute them, depending on the terms of the agreement, since they could have just said "No, and now we're watching you so if you do host any videos you're screwed".

[xybur]

That's good news then, I had no idea that Andamiro actually had some sort of agreement with us.

In either case, I think people will still be using the videos and whatnot for their own sims and will possibly host them elsewhere seeing as that is what a large majority of the people on here do anyway.

[Shinden]

Just don't forget to give props to the people who brought those videos to you. ^__________^

[benya7thmix]

illegal? is there evidence that bemanistyle has this media legally to begin with?

[I AM THE PROPHECY.]

Originally Posted by benya7thmix

illegal? is there evidence that bemanistyle has this media legally to begin with?

Originally Posted by djparanoia

we have direct permission from Andamiro to host them, and that's why our Zero videos (and soon the others) have a bemanistyle watermark