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Interlude To The Challenge Of Game [Sky-Scrollers]
Old 12-03-2006, 09:01 PM   #1
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Question Interlude To The Challenge Of Game [Sky-Scrollers]

When I was young, I used to play the "Aero" style "Sky-Scrollers" 'most everyday.

I mean, I wouldn't play Racing games, Fighting Games, Sports Games, Shooters (the gods FORBID!), or anything else.

It was long before "Athena Asamiya," "Mai Shiranui," and "Sakura Kasogano" became my 'Life-Long" girlfriends ('til death do we part).

Before I "met them..." I was...

A PILOT

I would fly high over the skies and beyond the Atmpsopheres and Stratospheres of our galaxy in vehicles like the Vic Viper, Falcon-X, and whatever the hell they call that thing in Raiden.

Yes. I was in Heaven... for $0.50 every two seconds!

"What makes you even want to play those types of games?"

My brothers would ask harshly.

"You can't ever beat them!"

Oh-ho! Beat them I did... and then they'd start over--at an even more difficult level!

What blazes in hell pushed gamers like you, like me--to the edge in the air like that?

Aero Fighters - 3,000 bullets on the screen at one time. SURE you could shoot many of the projectiles, but as soon as you hit one, 300 others you can't shoot come flying your way at over a-billion miles per hour.

Raiden - What sadistic scum created such a game for me to be as a virtual masochist and desire to die just so I may have another set of bombs to provide the illusion of a "shield" (bullets disappear when you drop a bomb in just about all of these kinds of games) that would eventually guide me to the end of the game... only after 300 something tries and more than $40 attempting worth of tokens spent?

Gradius - The classic fun goodness of this awesomely challenging game. Shoot millions of enemies and get a power up! Home of the 'Option' or "Mock Ship." This game has forever changed how we think of the term "Options."
*Evil Businessman Laugh*
*Destroys Large Corporations like Sony & Nintendo up with Konami Options...wait... 'Nintendo was our Producers and Distrubutors...! S***!)

Darius & G-Darius - Fish, mutants, and other monsters that shoot more "water" and other projectiles at you (in the extremities of space!?) than they would normally breath in their natural habitat (water).

Life Force - Ah, the classic. Fly inside the sun and fight a "Brain lobbing" skull near the end. Battle "Bad-A-Z Blood Cells" and "Shoot Back" arms that reach for you (on the first level). This game was just good clean fun. Not quite as challenging as say "Raiden" or "Aero Fighters," but certainly made up for this with fun factor (and suspense while in the Sun... LOOK OUT!)

*Flame Jet shoots up from bottom of screen and engulfs Vic Viper*

"Vic!"

"Huh...Agh!"

*Second Player Pulled Under*

*Game Over*

Final Assessment

The most fun I had with all of those was

Aero Fighters.

So many countries, and something about the bright colors, short (but witty) levels, different "Bombs" (and "Normal Projectile Attacks,") as well as "Fun Music" (Especially on Aero Fighter 3's final level, "Ap! Geep Monkey! Work it! Ap Gee Monkey1 Hit Me!" or whatever it is that was said) made it one of my favorite "Sky-Scrollers" of all time. Gradius and the original Darius Gaiden in close 2nd and 3rds. Life Force was also a blast (but was quite different from the average challenging "Sky-Scroller" in that you could run into mountains and the likes and there weren't so many bullets. I'm hesitant to even call this one a "Sky Scroller" as this one was more like "Contra" or "Jackal..." OOops! All by the same Company [Konami]! ^^

And the most difficult game [due to sheer challenge] of this type for me was...

*Horns* *Da-dada-Daaaaaa!*

*Cymbol Crash*

Raiden 2!

TRICK answer.

To this day, I still have not completed this game. I even purchased it for the PC and with 3 lives and 3 credits (9 lives total), I still can't win--nom atter how virociously I attack nor elegantly I dodge. I've gotten to level 5 out of 6 (I hope 6 is the last!)

I haven't had time to play it in almost a year, but Mone(?)'s comment in my PS3 topic sent me to reminiscing.

But that's not important for your minds.

My question to you is--

Which "Sky-Scroller" did you have the most fun with growing up/

Not only the ones I listed, but any one of the "Sky-Shooters" you can think of.

List them like this (if you will please)

1. <Most fun for you>
2. <The most difficult for you>

I look forward to hearing from you! (we-hel! Reading the response conceived from your mind and typed through your fingers!)

Take care.

Whole Heartedly,
-Tiger M. Gales
(On a recollection trip of nostalgia... Thanks Mo Ne! [for the reminder])
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:02 PM   #2
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They are called SHUMPS by the way.
http://www.classicgaming.com/shmups/

Raiden 2 is a personal favorite.
I'm a little more modern, since I love Psyvariar 2 and Ikugara.
Original Giga Wing, DoDonPachi, Battle Bakraid, Raiden Fighters Jet, ESP Ra.De. are all classics.

And the best one of all : Sinistar. (I don't care it doesn't count) "I HUNGER!"
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:10 PM   #3
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Lifeforce was my first, and is still one of my favorites. Even to this day I still pick it up and burn a few lives every so often...since that beginning I've discovered such greats as R-Type (especially 3, which is my all-time favorite SNES shooter...I'm currently working on perfecting a no-force-device run of the 1st loop and hope to eventually capture a video of the whole thing), Gradius (2 and 3 are my personal favs, I'm currently working on the 7th loop of 3...gotta love save states), Super Aleste (also goes by Space Megaforce, 2nd fav. on SNES...a tad easier than others though, espeically after having played through it about a billion times), Super Earth Defense Force (another SNES, has a unique levelup system and a final boss that puts most others to shame) and Ikaruga (DC/GCN, beautiful game, requires so much strategy and memorization yet it's a blast to play, especially when happening across new methods to clear certain parts or finally getting an S-rank on a chapter you've been working on for months...). It's one of my 3 favorite genres, right up there with RPGs and puzzle games (ala Tetris/PuyoPuyo/Meteos/etc.).

Most fun: Most likely Lifeforce, simply for the many hours of co-op play my cousin and I plugged into that game...the first time we beat it without continuing, we did it together.

Most difficult: Probably Super EDF...that game has a penchant for throwing fast, unexpected, hard-to-see things at you. That and the final boss. Yeah. Bullet-eating Tageri (Ikaruga) seems like nothing compared to it sometimes. I'm lucky to survive it even with a full complement of shields.
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:13 PM   #4
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The first one I played that mattered is Gradius V. I just can't get into R-Type.
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:18 PM   #5
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I've never owned a PS2 (and don't plan on ever doing so), so I've missed out on a lot of the more recent ones...but I'm quite happy with the classics, especially when I discover one I haven't played that turns out to be actually decent.
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:25 PM   #6
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I've been getting into shmups myself recently, and have always been a huge fan of Xevious. Super R-Type is one of the only games I hold onto for my SNES, as well.
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Old 12-03-2006, 10:37 PM   #7
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bweep bweep bweep fanboy alert

I've been getting into shmups myself recently, and have always been a huge fan of Xevious. Super R-Type is one of the only games I hold onto for my SNES, as well.
Too right. I'm Nintendo loyal and will always be.

Xevious was a good one, albeit very simplistic...I didn't care too much for the music though...true, though, it was back in the early NES days...meh.

One I forgot to mention...Zanac! The game that basically invented the concept of ranked shooters...the better weaponry you had, the more the game tried to destroy you. The music was great too, really catchy (especially the first stage), plus it was challenging no matter how powered up your ship became.
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Old 12-03-2006, 11:18 PM   #8
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You're on bemanistyle, but you don't own a PS2?...please tell me you don't have DDr Mario Mix.

Anyway, GigaWing 2 has been my favorite shooter for a good while now. Laugh all you want, but regardless of how much I like other shooters (and I DO like them), this is the only one I've been able to bring myself to log more than 5 hours on. I got all of the gallery pictures a week or so after I bought it, so I must've beaten it quite a few times, as opposed to most other shooters which I've never beaten ever. (Ikaruga, and Mars Matrix? Don't get me wrong though, both are great, though I think I like MM more...)
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Old 12-03-2006, 11:22 PM   #9
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Too right. I'm Nintendo loyal and will always be.
Your loss. Hope your "principles" are more fun than video games.

I grew up on MOTHERFUCKING AEROFIGHTERS with SPANKY THE DOLPHIN just tearing SHIT

UP

I like games that follow more outrageous power-up trees. I'm not enjoying a shooter as much as I could be unless my fire covers half the goddamned screen.
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Old 12-04-2006, 12:41 AM   #10
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You're on bemanistyle, but you don't own a PS2?...please tell me you don't have DDr Mario Mix.
Actually, no, I don't...I've seen it in action, and didn't really feel like it was worth picking up. That and I've heard it's too easy.

Firepower covering half the screen? Most games in the Gradius chain have no problem with that. In 3, for instance, f-options + ripple beam offers the widest fire available, spanning a good two-thirds of the screen at any given time, though it's hella weak compared to t- or c-laser.

Edit: Actually, forget what I said there...using normal options and 3 speedups or more any weapon will easily cover at least 3/4 of the screen.

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Too right. I'm Nintendo loyal and will always be.
Reposting something I wrote a couple days ago to someone else who said that they refuse to buy an Xbox:

"I'm glad that my not clinging to retarded reasons like that has allowed me to play games like Jet Set Radio Future, Steel Battallion, Halo, and Crimson Skies

I own consoles from every major manufacturer and I fully realize that not getting one because of some sort of video-game "moral code" or equally retarded reason is pretty stupid. Not being able to afford all of them or just not liking the offerings for a system, sure, but "I pay Microsoft enough for Windows" is pretty idiotic."
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I'm having troubles finding good screenshots for it, but Gigawing Generations is pretty snazzy. A really good gimmick (rechargable shield which you really have to use or you will die) and the scoring is hilarious.

Like, 590,000,000,000,000,000 points hilarious.
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Old 12-04-2006, 02:08 AM   #15
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I love the original Giga Wing. What platforms was it made for?
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