lack of interest in next gen- jaded gamers thread

[bandit22]

it just doesn't excite me at all. maybe im just jaded, but nothing on x360 appeals to me, wii seems like a gimmick, just a gamecube in a new case with a new controller (at least at this point it does), and ps3 is 599 US DOLLARS and high def is irrelevant to me because the only tv i have is a 10 year old 19 inch rca. not to mention anything that looks that interesting; dmc and mgs are a little prettier, but that seems to be it. ill probably eventually end up with a ps3 when the price drops.

im not trying to rain on anyones parade or "dis" their video game of choice, k, but i don't know how anyone could wait in line to preorder their consoles. i mean, ill eventually go next gen, but early adoption seems like a stupid idea on a somewhat decent sized investment like a console.

oh well whatever. at the end of the day ill just pick what seems most fun after observing from afar. i didnt mean for this to be so long. november is going to be hell for all the fanatics, ill just enjoy the show.

[Elixir]

My words exactly. The next generation is an over-hyped, overrated (HELLO RANDOM), worthless commercialized gimmick which will appeal to morons and the hoard. I'm going to sit here and spectate my ass off until there's actually games worth buying.

The 360 has not taken off the ground. Oblivion, Chromehounds and a couple of other titles does not make it worth the price it is, nor is it worth purchasing a HDTV for. No console is worth purchasing a HDTV for. Component is fine. People are just extremely fussy with their choices and can't seem to be satisfied with the bare essentials these days.

I honestly can't see a reason to purchase the 360 at the moment. I would if Killer Instinct 3, Banjo Threeie and a few more titles that I would be highly interested in, actually came out. But that's not the case so far, and it'll be exactly a year since the xbox 360's launch in one month.

The Wii, I don't know. I like the idea of the backwards compatibility, but I can't honestly say I bothered with Nintendo all that much. Plus, I'm an international gamer. I have games from all around the world, and I was highly disappointed when they mentioned that there would be regional lockout - and then they turned around and said it would be region free. And then oops, it's actually locked out. Make up your fucking minds, Nintendo.

The PS3's going to be expensive. Not to mention it won't be released down under until March 07. I'm not interested in any of the titles so far apart from Zone of the Enders 3, and as I've previously said, buying a HDTV for a console isn't worth it. And in saying that, buying a console for a single game isn't worth it either.

I'm very happy with my current consoles and collection. I have enough games that I need to complete, and they'll take me a few years, at least. I don't have a massively oversized collection like some, because I have real obscure taste in games. But I'd like to complete my current Gamecube, xbox and PS2 collection before possibly moving foward.

I'm also more partial to 2D games, which is something you almost will not see on the PS3, because Sony haet 2D. Nintendo might end up getting a few 2D games on the Wii, but I doubt there will be very many. I already have all of the Metal Slug titles, and I can't see how people will be able to play that fucking shit with the Wii remote. It seems ridiculous. I don't want to wave my arms around just to throw grenades. The Metal Slug series is hard enough as it is without gimmicks coming into the picture.

I think I'm in the same boat as you, actually. Nothing seems appealing to me so far, aside from what I've mentioned. It's sad, really, but buying a console on it's launch date is never a good idea. First editions of consoles always have bugs, problems, issues, whatever. It's best to just wait until games are available for both the PS3 and Wii, which aren't launch titles.

[dog$]

Being jaded is cool because it means you save money.

Plus it's cheaper to bitch about games than buy and play them.

I mean, I come for the times like this:

ps3 is 599 US DOLLARS

just for the sake of saying "get with the times".

[Malev]

I almost dread the next-gen movement. How are we going to play the new Bemani games with our fancy controllers when the shift comes?

All kidding aside, I'm gonna personally hold off on the PS3-- if I get it at all. Give it 2~3 years for the price to drop significantly and cash in on the then-classics!

Xbox 360 is another hold-off. There's only one game I'm willing to get right now (Dead Rising), and it's not worth the initial system cost. Maybe once enough hits roll in, I might bite. It's too bad there aren't enough compatible games from the Xbox1.

Wii got me with Zelda. That and SMB:Brawl. I figure with the (hopefully) trade-in deals I'll trade my GC in and upgrade for cheap. It's kinda like the hook that had me buy the PS2 way back [Spiffier PS1 + DVD player + extras = WIN].

Also, I know about the Metal Slug Anthology on the Wii (and PSP, but I'm not buying that...) and I hope it works with the Classic Controller. It'd almost work with the Wiimote part tilted sideways, except for the need for 3 buttons [4 with MS6]. I also hope it's a good compilation port. And not too expensive. $40 sounds good.

[dog$]

All this talk of Metal Slug Anthology reminded me

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=281607
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/m...ug%20anthology

That's right - PS2 is still the "current-gen" system of choice for console 2D gaming.

[Axem Rangers]

On VJA several months ago, Axem Rangers wrote:

So I was playing NiGHTS Into Dreams... earlier today and I couldn't help noticing that, despite being bitterly depressed in recent months, that I was enjoying myself quite a bit. Later, I hopped online to find some NiGHTS wallpaper, and this led me to come across the path of wallpapers for Burning Rangers, Sonic Adventure, Eternal Arcadia, Shenmue, and other older (mostly Sega) games I'm rather fond of.

While sifting through these various pictures, sites and resources, I began to feel both nostalgia and an intense longing. These were all games I loved, games I love, many of which I hadn't even thought of in a long while. But I realized that recently, in the past few years, there have been very very few games (other than Bemani) that I have actually cared about.

And it's not even just that I don't play videogames as much or as obsessively as I used to. It's that I almost don't play videogames. At all. I don't follow videogame news anymore, I don't know about new releases until they come out (sometimes long after), and I spend much more time looking around my basement, filled with hundreds of games wishing I had something to play rather than playing anything. Nothing new excites me anymore. Nothing new even warrants my attention. Barely my acknowledgement.

People will often accredit such feelings to "growing up;" that in my maturity I don't care for videogames anymore. But that, I think, is bullshit. I can't really explain why I can say that with such conviction, but I can. I am still excited by videogames- it's not just that I want to be. But the only games that really excite me I've played- beaten- hundreds of times. It feels as though the games I own now will be the only I will ever play for the rest of my days as a gamer.

But the new games don't excite me anymore. Nor the systems. Nor the fantastic new technology that is desperately trying to keep the industry alive. And it's depressing.

Also, I had better quickly clarify something before it gets brought up against me. One reason people often think I don't like newer games is because I grew up with older games, so I like them for their fond memories and nostalgia. This would make sense, except that the majority of the "retro" games I love now I never played when I was younger. When I was a child, the only system I had was a Game Boy until the N64 came out (I got it probably a year or so after it came out). The only PC games I ever played when I was little were Commander Keen 4, Doom, and Gobliins 2.

Sure, I played Genesis or NES at a friend's once a month or so. But I was formerly introduced to Master System, Genesis, NES, and SNES games through emulation. I got my Sega Saturn (<3) probably a year and a half ago. Very very few classic/vintage videogames, for me, can be written off as "nostalgia."

I wish it were that simple.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by bandit22

and ps3 is 599 US DOLLARS

It could be much worse, just pointing that out.

The Pioneer CLD-A100 system was released in the United States on September 13, 1993 at the cost of US$970 and soon afterwards released three PACs.

Sega PAC (PAC-S10/PAC-S1)
Pioneer Electronics (USA) and Sega Enterprises released this module that allows users to play 8-inch and 12-inch LaserActive Mega LD discs, in addition to the hundreds of existing SEGA-CD and Genesis titles, as well as standard CD+G discs. It was the most popular add-on bought by the greater part of the LaserActive owners, costing roughly US$ 600. It comes with the usual Mega Drive/Genesis controller pad signed with a gold Pioneer LaserActive logo on it.

NEC PAC (PAC-N10/PAC-N1)
Pioneer Electronics (USA) and NEC Home Electronics released this module that allows users to play 8-inch and 12-inch LaserActive LD-ROM 2 discs, as well as current TurboGrafx CD-ROM discs, game HuCards and CD+G discs. This PAC is today one of the most sought after accessories for the system, and the Laserdisc compatible games are equally rare. Note: the Japanese version of the PAC is unable to play American HuCard games, and the same is valid the other way around. The retail price was US$ 600. It comes with the usual PC Engine/TurboGrafx 16 controller pad signed with a gold Pioneer LaserActive logo on it.

Karaoke PAC (PAC-K10/PAC-K1)
This PAC allows the CLD-A100 to use all NTSC LaserKaraoke titles. The front panel has two microphone inputs with separated volume controls, as well as tone control. The retail price was US$ 350.

That's the pricing for the Pioneer Laseractive system. $970 for the base unit, and $600 for each additional unit. And unless you bought one of the other units, the system played absolutely no games out of the box. So, you would end up paying $2170 for a combination Sega/SegaCD/TurboGrafx/TurboCD, with the additional cost for the privelege of playing the Laseractive exclusive games for each system, which were absolutely horrendous.

[MidnightRecession]

New games and technology are exciting and in most cases as good or better than old games and technology

You all suck

[Thoth]

Originally Posted by Malev

All kidding aside, I'm gonna personally hold off on the PS3-- if I get it at all. Give it 2~3 years for the price to drop significantly and cash in on the then-classics!

Same thing for me, too. I look foward to the next generation.

[BanYa4eVr]

Well I already preordered a PS3,

So it's a little too late for me to be thinking twice...

I've kinda been with Sony since the start of the Playstaion era...

I was reading all you guys' posts here, and I would have to agree though, there aren't that many PS3 launch games that are catching my eye. Even some of the distant ones are really not that interesting for me. The only couple that actually poked my shoulder was the two new Final Fantasy games for PS3. Not sure which one I would like better though, XIII or Versus XIII. That's all my opinion though, and my choice of games. I tend to lean more toward RPGs.

But I agree with a lot of your opinions on waiting. It does seem like a feesible idea. But how much do you think Sony can afford to bring the PS3 down to?

[MidnightRecession]

Originally Posted by BanYa4eVr

But I agree with a lot of your opinions on waiting. It does seem like a feesible idea. But how much do you think Sony can afford to bring the PS3 down to?

By the end of year two, $500 for the premium console, with an extra controller and a game packed in, unless they deviate wildly from established patterns.

[HioMrSan]

I can see their point. My PC games already look loads better than the 360. Consoles have their place, but PC gaming is whats really "next-gen". Take a look at some of the DX10 screenshots. Granted I have no problem paying for a a PS3, hell I've spend like 1500 on just my desktop.

[RtRR]

I'm sick of consoles. I can build a top of the line PC using $500 to $600, kid you not

Mine is already like that, just not top of the line anymore. It's getting old now with it's ATI Radeon 9800 Pro card, but still plays good games like Prey, HL2 and stuff like that

just not Oblivion because that's like trying to process the Earth when using my card

[HioMrSan]

Top of the line? More like 1000 dollars.

600 = Pretty good.

[ultralowincome]

i've had more fun with my GameBoy Micro and ROM cart playing umpteen number of NES and GBA roms than with my PSP or Xbox/PS2 (with the exception of Bemani on those consoles).I'm only into next gen when its two or so years old, ample time to iron the kinks out.