lack of interest in next gen- jaded gamers thread

[bandit22]

obviously. do we know how many wiis are going to be available? ps3 is 400k in america, 100k in japan, right? do we know how many are premium and how many aren't?

[モネ?]

Sony hasn't gave a definent figgue on that, but they did say at TGS that expext more 60 gig models then 20gigs for this region intialy.

As far as Wii, Nintendo hasn't said how many units they have yet for each region, but it's well over 2mill in total. I wouldn't expect a shortage for the Wii.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6159738...stnews;title;1

wii details

[Elixir]

Originally Posted by MadRoll

Halo is better than Doom because of a refinement of the ideas presented in Doom and some construction on the foundations laid, including but not limited to weapon selection and balance, outdoor environments, multiplayer, vehicles, and a host of other things.

Alternatively, Doom is better than Halo because it's old and two dee rite :V

It's people like you who enjoy 3D Contras over 2D Metal Slugs.

WHERE ARE YOUR PRIORITIES

[MidnightRecession]

Originally Posted by Elixir

It's people like you who enjoy 3D Contras over 2D Metal Slugs.

WHERE ARE YOUR PRIORITIES

Man I don't like no 3D Contra the fuck are you goin on about

But seriously, all I'm saying is that although old games are definitely fun, there are plenty of reasons to enjoy new ones. If you can't find any of them, well, that's a pity. :\

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Elixir

It's people like you who enjoy 3D Contras over 2D Metal Slugs.

WHERE ARE YOUR PRIORITIES

The difference in your example is that 3D Contra is hideously broken and not that fun. Halo's actually a well made game. :P

[chaosrain37]

Originally Posted by Elixir

It's people like you who enjoy 3D Contras over 2D Metal Slugs.

WHERE ARE YOUR PRIORITIES

I go for next gen, though the graphics arent everything in a game, I like much more the first 2D contras than the 3D ones. And in my opinion Contra has more action than metal slug, and metal slug is better for a fun game, and I prefer playing with another player or else it isnt worth it.

I dunno why you ppl are against the next gen systems, I agree that their prices are really high, but the reason I go for them are for their capabilities, innovation, new games... New games can be as fun as the old ones, they just have to stop focusing on impressive graphics and more storylines and fun factors.

[Thoth]

I like this whole logic of new=3D/Old=2D.
Becuase you know, "I, Robot","Starfox", "Stunt Race FX", and a couple of intelevision games are all brand new games.
And Capcom Vs. SNK has been around forever.

[Monster in a box]

Originally Posted by Danser

I like this whole logic of new=3D/Old=2D.
Becuase you know, "I, Robot","Starfox", "Stunt Race FX", and a couple of intelevision games are all brand new games.
And Metal Slug 6 has been around forever.

Better example...

[Elixir]

Originally Posted by Dewgy

The difference in your example is that 3D Contra is hideously broken and not that fun. Halo's actually a well made game. :P

I think the negative outweighs the positive when it comes to the amount of people who come in the masses when it comes to liking or disliking Halo. It's a mixed bag but Halo was nothing revolutionary for the xbox. Goldeneye did what Halo did, but years before. The only difference was that you could play Halo on Xbox Live (which feels like an isolated piece of lagged shit, but anyway.)

I'm not against the next generation but FUCKING WAIT until both the Wii and PS3 have successfully landed, and have an array of games which aren't launch titles. And perhaps wait until they've revisioned the console and ironed out the bugs. It's only a sensible option.

[Monster in a box]

Originally Posted by Elixir

The only difference was that you could play Halo on Xbox Live (which feels like an isolated piece of lagged shit, but anyway.)

No you couldn't.

[Elixir]

Elaborate or get the fuck out.

[MidnightRecession]

Originally Posted by Elixir

Goldeneye did what Halo did, but years before.

Uh Halo did a lot of things that Goldeneye did not

Originally Posted by Elixir

Elaborate or get the fuck out.

Halo was not playable on XBox Live

XBox Live didn't exist at the time of Halo

[Elixir]

Originally Posted by MadRoll

Uh Halo did a lot of things that Goldeneye did not

If you people can't explain yourselves, don't think you can hold a valid point in this thread.

[MidnightRecession]

Originally Posted by Elixir

If you people can't explain yourselves, don't think you can hold a valid point in this thread.

God almighty, I have to beat these points into everyone's head every single time we have a thread that talks about shooters. Write them down and refer to the list later so we can all save a little bit of time.

Sixteen player LAN outside of a PC setting, large outdoor environments as opposed to corridors (I will grant that Goldeneye had some limited outdoor maps, though), extremely intelligent AI on Legendary difficulty, the current industry-standard FPS control scheme, vehicles, and a vastly improved graphical engine, which, like it or not, has remained very easy on the eyes and will remain so for longer than Goldeneye. Some would argue that that last one is unimportant, but I would call those people idiots given the immersion factor afforded by improved visuals. G007 was very, very good for its time but you can't keep holding it up as the gold standard of console shooters, because in every regard except weapons Halo beats it at its own game.

[Alex]

I also believe Halo doesn't have playlist style spawn points in multiplayer like 007 did, making it much easier to have a fair game against cockbiters who would otherwise memorize the order of spawn locations.

Y'gotta watch out for those cockbiters. They can be nasty.