Which Ol' Skoo FPS still the Best?

[KingKannibal]

I've deicded to start a poll on this special genre because it's the most popular, and a lot of Third Person type of people [like me] would easily get into, specially since these games have been around since the 90's[for this genre...MazeWars don't count, DOOM was more popular than that]

I personally choose the Unreal Series because of it's wide variety of mods available to this date!

But I will go with Quake because of it's addictive formula! I can pass the game and just go back to it over and over a few times. The multiplayer aspect of this lacks in mod support in comparison to Unreal Tournament specially since Unreal Tournament developers Epic Games encourages modders to make some add-ons for the community through hard cash contest, etc. What I like about Quake is that you can listen to any Death Metal song and it will 'obviously' go with it...unless the Death Metal is political like Dying Fetus....but enough of that! The amount of gore seen in these games always haunts me begging me to play it some more and more and more...

[fmeeba]

Quake all the way. Everything about it, from the dark appearance, to the physics, is addicting. Oh yeah, the physics. Best physics in any game series. Quake physics open up whole new levels of playstyle and strategy in the game (I am looking at DeFrag mod ).

[Kyosuke Kagami]

I was the first one voting Doom.

Your tastes need some checking, people.

[cj iwakura]

Doom was my first, and it's still enjoyable today, so that. (But my favorite FPS is FEAR.)

[dieKatze88]

Its time for you all to stop playing quake. Its over. Go play real FPS games. Doom invented modern deathmatch and the source port mods continue to define it.

[Kyosuke Kagami]

Quake shot itself with that travesti called Quake IV.

[KingKannibal]

awww...that's messed up.....at least appreciate the ones before it!!!

[m335h73r of PBJ]

Duke Nukem started out as a Platformer for 6 fucking games.

[dieKatze88]

Maze War by NASA was the first FPS game, it also had multiplayer. You could shoot other players and gain and lose points. A similar game called MIDI Maze for the Atari ST was released in 1987. I'm not sure if either of these games had killing. I've never seen Maze War run. I have seen MIDI Maze run in an emulator, However, I never saw the game remain stable enough to actually play.

The next big thing in FPS games would be id software's Hovertank. It used the Raycasting technology of id Tech -2 (Hovertank/Catacomb 3d/Wolf3d engine) to greatly increase the rendering speed of a 3d game on commodity hardware available at the time. Hovertank was the first game produced on this engine and Catacomb 3d came next. Both used EGA graphics. Wolf3d was the first FPS games to be displayed on VGA cards, and the first in 8 bit color.

It would not be until Doom and its earth shattering use of Binary Space Partitioning that would allow 386 class machines to display full 3d graphics with dynamic lighting and variable heights on floors and ceilings. Bear in mind that the birth of deathmatch would not allow for room over room due to limitations of the BSP processor used in Doom. Eventually hackers found a way to create fake room over room using some cleverly defined linedefs, however, you can see and shoot through them.

Doom allowed 4 player deathmatch over an IPX enabled LAN, or 2 player deathmatch via Null Modem Serial (7 pin required) or via dialup modem (minimum 9600 baud required) However, because Doom required an external program to handle the execution of network functions, hackers eventually developed a few programs, one allowed for 4 players over a mix of connections using some clever connections, however, this was unreliable (I had a 3 player setup between 3 nearly identical 486/33mhz machines in my Grandmother's basement. We downloaded WADs via a 28.8kb/s modem I lifted out of a junked 286/16) and another allowed for ip setup that would allow for multiplayer over the now common TCP/IP protocols, but by the time that came around Quake was pretty big and Quakeworld was in full swing.

Neat little trick to try. If you can put together 3 machines of the right age (Pentium class machines are perfect for this) you can actually play Doom v1.1 in a VR mode. Learn how to run IPX Setup manually on the command line and start Doom with 3 extra commands -left on the left monitor, -center on the main monitor, and -right on the right monitor. This worked with the clusterfuck setup program however it was not very cooperative with this and would often cause crashes.

Doom remains one of the bigger classic shooters of these times, because id software released the code to the Linux port and allowed hackers to reengineer the software. I played a lot of many many versions of the Doom Engine. CS Doom was the first that had a master server and allowed for modern browsing of game servers as quake and such have pioneered. Zdaemon and Skulltag are still quite popular. Skulltag is best described as Quake 3 features inside Doom, which thanks to a talented dev team works quite well. Zdaemon is mostly about the rankings and straight deathmatch. They run mapping contests from time to time and I nearly won the first one. I'll see if I can find a copy of the WAD for you guys.

Send me a PM if you guys ever want to play. I freaking love Doom.


Now for the actual reply to this thread:

When you say appreciate the ones before it. You do mean Doom. Sure, two games came out before, but they hardly qualify. Neither of them started an online sensation. and I didn't even go into DWANGO, which allowed for 4 player action via dialup modem. Doom was a pretty significant part of my life before and during my early DDR days. If it wasn't for the initial shutdown of the Doom Connector back in the day, I would probably still be playing it every day.

[Kimo]

Doom all the way, with the Heretic/Hexen games right alongside Doom.

Both can be combined for some truly amazing pieces of work in WAD development today

[KingKannibal]

Originally Posted by dieKatze88

Maze War by NASA was the first FPS game, it also had multiplayer. You could shoot other players and gain and lose points. A similar game called MIDI Maze for the Atari ST was released in 1987. I'm not sure if either of these games had killing. I've never seen Maze War run. I have seen MIDI Maze run in an emulator, However, I never saw the game remain stable enough to actually play.

The next big thing in FPS games would be id software's Hovertank. It used the Raycasting technology of id Tech -2 (Hovertank/Catacomb 3d/Wolf3d engine) to greatly increase the rendering speed of a 3d game on commodity hardware available at the time. Hovertank was the first game produced on this engine and Catacomb 3d came next. Both used EGA graphics. Wolf3d was the first FPS games to be displayed on VGA cards, and the first in 8 bit color.

It would not be until Doom and its earth shattering use of Binary Space Partitioning that would allow 386 class machines to display full 3d graphics with dynamic lighting and variable heights on floors and ceilings. Bear in mind that the birth of deathmatch would not allow for room over room due to limitations of the BSP processor used in Doom. Eventually hackers found a way to create fake room over room using some cleverly defined linedefs, however, you can see and shoot through them.

Doom allowed 4 player deathmatch over an IPX enabled LAN, or 2 player deathmatch via Null Modem Serial (7 pin required) or via dialup modem (minimum 9600 baud required) However, because Doom required an external program to handle the execution of network functions, hackers eventually developed a few programs, one allowed for 4 players over a mix of connections using some clever connections, however, this was unreliable (I had a 3 player setup between 3 nearly identical 486/33mhz machines in my Grandmother's basement. We downloaded WADs via a 28.8kb/s modem I lifted out of a junked 286/16) and another allowed for ip setup that would allow for multiplayer over the now common TCP/IP protocols, but by the time that came around Quake was pretty big and Quakeworld was in full swing.

Neat little trick to try. If you can put together 3 machines of the right age (Pentium class machines are perfect for this) you can actually play Doom v1.1 in a VR mode. Learn how to run IPX Setup manually on the command line and start Doom with 3 extra commands -left on the left monitor, -center on the main monitor, and -right on the right monitor. This worked with the clusterfuck setup program however it was not very cooperative with this and would often cause crashes.

Doom remains one of the bigger classic shooters of these times, because id software released the code to the Linux port and allowed hackers to reengineer the software. I played a lot of many many versions of the Doom Engine. CS Doom was the first that had a master server and allowed for modern browsing of game servers as quake and such have pioneered. Zdaemon and Skulltag are still quite popular. Skulltag is best described as Quake 3 features inside Doom, which thanks to a talented dev team works quite well. Zdaemon is mostly about the rankings and straight deathmatch. They run mapping contests from time to time and I nearly won the first one. I'll see if I can find a copy of the WAD for you guys.

Send me a PM if you guys ever want to play. I freaking love Doom.


Now for the actual reply to this thread:

When you say appreciate the ones before it. You do mean Doom. Sure, two games came out before, but they hardly qualify. Neither of them started an online sensation. and I didn't even go into DWANGO, which allowed for 4 player action via dialup modem. Doom was a pretty significant part of my life before and during my early DDR days. If it wasn't for the initial shutdown of the Doom Connector back in the day, I would probably still be playing it every day.

this looks like something from wikipedia....lol....

and I meant appreciate the Quake games before Oatmeal 4....

[Sagat believer]

DOOM receives my vote, since it introduced us to these two weapons in the FPS genre:

--chainsaws
--BIG FUCKING GUN

Oh, did I mention camp-free Deathmatch?

[dieKatze88]

Originally Posted by Sagat believer

Oh, did I mention camp-free Deathmatch?

Back when I played deathmatch like it was a drug, There was no such thing as camping.

[KingKannibal]

Originally Posted by dieKatze88

Back when I played deathmatch like it was a drug, There was no such thing as camping.

man....back then I played Resident Evil on the first PSX....the first FPS game I played wasn't until Goldeneye....or It might be some other game on PS1 that I can't remember the name of right now!!!

the weird part is that I started listening to Cannibal Corpse before Quake was introduced to me...that could be a reason why!

[rmz]

single player: jedi knight
multiplayer: quake / quake ctf / teamfortress