Orignal Persona being remade for PSP (Persona 3 also, now with more girl power) - Page 3

zonic505 · 03-13-2009, 05:43 AM

I've read that the UMD can hold 1.8 GBs.

Eight · 03-13-2009, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by zonic505

I've read that the UMD can hold 1.8 GBs.

Based on that assumption, something as ridiculous as that idea is actually possible? How many discs were those games, and how much data do they each take up? I know most games that split into multiple discs do not do so randomly... they don't usually take up the maximum amount of disc space before moving onto the next disc. After all, who wants to switch discs for an hour of content, right?

Hiryuu · 03-13-2009, 09:40 AM

I think most ended at around the 640MB-700MB mark on the original PSX. The UMD does in fact support up to 1.8GB, but only on a dual-layer. Most of the discs out there are 900MB.

One of the main problems with the disc, however, is the lag on the load times on the disc. That's more or less why Sony has been wanting to push towards digital for a long time now because of the disc format not offering that great of performance when it comes to games, since the PRO DUO cards generally perform a lot better when it comes down to it.

Since it's up to 16GB for the DUO cards and now 32GB in the works for this year...it's becoming easier to think that it'll become better to just rely on those cards instead.

Eight · 03-13-2009, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hiryuu

I think most ended at around the 640MB-700MB mark on the original PSX. The UMD does in fact support up to 1.8GB, but only on a dual-layer. Most of the discs out there are 900MB.

One of the main problems with the disc, however, is the lag on the load times on the disc. That's more or less why Sony has been wanting to push towards digital for a long time now because of the disc format not offering that great of performance when it comes to games, since the PRO DUO cards generally perform a lot better when it comes down to it.

Since it's up to 16GB for the DUO cards and now 32GB in the works for this year...it's becoming easier to think that it'll become better to just rely on those cards instead.

Are they considering the ProDUO as the main format for the PSP2? Urr, does anyone know such a thing? I find that PSP games in general run better from the ProDUO anyways.

Hiryuu · 03-13-2009, 04:13 PM

I'm not exactly sure. Sony's said that UMD is still a technology that they wish to use and something they will not discontinue...but they -have- stressed the need to go digital at a far greater pace than any of the other consoles.

Whether they continue with Pro Duo as well is anyone's guess...but considering it's a Sony-based brand of data and it's worked for them, it wouldn't be surprising. 32GB in 2009 is still a lot of data for a portable system considering that PS3s exist in 20 and 40 gig models (or, of course, better...as well as custom hard drives like mine).

If there was a UMD-less PSP2, I wouldn't be surprised and I wouldn't be annoyed. Most people use their Pro Duo and PSPs modded in that regard anyways for more than just playing UMD games as it is.

As for Persona in general right now: that one MMO is now mobile.

Eight · 03-15-2009, 09:18 PM

The problem I keep having is simple: the UMD format CLEARLY has limits, whereas the digital media formats keep moving forward at a decent pace. 32GB of storage in such a small case is insane -- and it makes it clear that if you want to go portable, that kind of media is ideal for bigger games and such. Not to mention load times are ALREADY better than that of the UMD drive.

For home consoles, the optical mediums make sense -- DVDs and Blu-rays both put up reasonable load times, especially given the quality of games they help bring to your screen. But when it comes to portables, you really have to worry about wait times, especially when using larger amounts of data.

Easiest example of bad UMD-ness: Mana Khemia: Student Alliance. A good port graphics and content wise... but the appearance of five to ten seconds of loading screens ALL THE TIME kills the experience. In a way, such are the virtues and vices of the optical media.

Or maybe just the PSP? I mean, what has horrible load times for the DS?

cj iwakura · 03-18-2009, 01:21 PM

zonic505 · 03-18-2009, 03:34 PM

Interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if Atlus kept the box art.

I wonder what the game is going to be rated. Considering the original was K-to-A (what they used before E) & it's rated B in Japan (or 12+), perhaps this'll be the 1st Persona in a while that isn't rated M.

& why did Revelations get removed from the title? Kinda seems weird the remake is just called "Persona". You'd think they'd add some subtitle to indicate that it's a remake or something...

cj iwakura · 03-21-2009, 11:31 AM

Revelations was Atlus USA's attempt at localizing 'Shin Megami Tensei' as a brand name, and that's long gone. (Won't be missed)

The USA version will almost certainly have the SMT banner slapped on the front.

Hiryuu · 03-24-2009, 12:08 PM

One more month to go.

Yet another trailer.

zonic505 · 06-12-2009, 09:46 AM

It's been confirmed that the US version will get the 2-disk OST & will be released Sept 22nd (the day after my 18th b-day):

Geschpooklichkeit · 06-12-2009, 10:43 AM

I wonder how much Atlus slapped themselves for the old translation in this new one.

zonic505 · 07-31-2009, 01:42 PM

Walkthrough showing off some stuff, like new features & Snow Queen sidequest

US version is getting full voiceovers which is exclusive to the US. Can't remember if I mentioned that or not...

**helix eternal** · 07-31-2009, 06:54 PM

So did Mark get vitiligo during the remake process or what?

zonic505 · 08-05-2009, 10:46 PM

Well, this is interesting. On the same day (9/22) Persona hits stores, it'll also be available for download via PSN. Obviously, if you download it (it'll be the same price, $39.99, but no tax), you won't get the OST.