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Old 06-22-2007, 08:42 AM   #406
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it doesn't work. I already tried it :<
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Old 06-22-2007, 01:30 PM   #407
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You use Spikes.

Then you use Spikes again to double the effect, hence "Stacking"

Then you use Toxic Spikes/Stealth Rock. Spikes effect is negated and now the new one is in effect.

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Old 06-22-2007, 02:13 PM   #408
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he was hoping for this:

use spikes up to three times to get it stacked
then use toxic spikes to get that stacked three more times
then stealth rock three more times for triple damage stack but it doesn't work sadly
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Old 06-22-2007, 09:16 PM   #409
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You use Spikes.

Then you use Spikes again to double the effect, hence "Stacking"

Then you use Toxic Spikes/Stealth Rock. Spikes effect is negated and now the new one is in effect.

Better now?
Much clearer. I didn't know what you meant the first time, but it makes enough sense now.

My question is this: What the hell kind of pokemon would have two or more moves from that list in their moveset?

...and the strategy is meh, as it would take an eon to set up... not to mention Rapid Spin completely nulls it.
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Old 06-23-2007, 12:04 AM   #410
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Forttress can learn Spikes, Poison Spikes, and Stealth Rock.

Bug/Steel is an iffy type matching though.
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Old 06-23-2007, 12:35 AM   #411
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Forttress can learn Spikes, Poison Spikes, and Stealth Rock.

Bug/Steel is an iffy type matching though.
It can also have Rapid Spin.

And I agree -- Bug/Steel is, at best, iffy. I don't think it's stats are too hardcore either.
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Old 06-23-2007, 12:37 AM   #412
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But Scizor is badass and it's a Bug/Steel too.
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Old 06-23-2007, 09:29 AM   #413
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Bug/Steel only has ONE weakness.. how's that iffy? (yeah I know it's a double weakness XP)
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Old 06-23-2007, 10:47 AM   #414
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I was more or less just wondering if you could actually do it, since I saw that it could learn all three, but like Eight said, it would take forever to set up and it'd probably be dead by then anyway.

I've decided against using the Forretress anyway, considering that double weakness to fire is probably a bad thing combined with the 60 base Special Defense, so a Flamethrower or two could take it down really quickly. Not to mention it's slow.

With that being said, I'm now trying to figure out what to use for a mixed sweeper, preferably something Water type. I was thinking Octillery, but I'm not quite sure yet. Does anyone else have any ideas about this?
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Old 06-23-2007, 11:02 AM   #415
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But Forretress is a tank...right? >_>
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Old 06-23-2007, 12:38 PM   #416
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With that being said, I'm now trying to figure out what to use for a mixed sweeper, preferably something Water type. I was thinking Octillery, but I'm not quite sure yet. Does anyone else have any ideas about this?

Nothing in water really lends itself well to "mixed" sweeping. Most things are too slow -- unless you use Ubers, where Manaphy and the like rule.

You could, in theory, adapt things like Starmie to the job, but you'd really just be pulling the spokes out of a good Special sweeper.

My personal preference is usually to run different things for different situations -- granted, switching IS a huge risk factor.

...you know, all this talk makes me want to build a Starmie something like this:

252 Satk /252 Spd / 4Hp

Surf/Ice Beam/Psychic/Thunderbolt (or maybe Flash Cannon... who knows)

Probably a Choice Specs/Scarf set. Probably a speed boosting nature, too.

...I just want to switch into a Zapdos and wreck it out of nowhere with a crazed ice beam or something.
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Old 06-23-2007, 02:11 PM   #417
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Sp. Def training in this game is ass. The lowest-leveled Pokémon that you can only do this with is Tentacools, which are FUCKING ANNOYING. God, my Ralts was just barely surviving. Even with Confusion as the STAB, it only did around 25% of taking away the HP. It was my Gallade Ralts too so you know I really couldn't use Thunderbolt. -_-

For God's sake, no matter what, blow your money/BP on 10 Zincs. You'll need it.
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Old 06-23-2007, 02:27 PM   #418
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For God's sake, no matter what, blow your money/BP on 10 Zincs. You'll need it.
Don't forget your Focus Bands too, kids.

Pokerus as well..

Once you get a method down for earning the points, though, the rest is pie.
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Old 06-23-2007, 02:29 PM   #419
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I don't have any of that. -_- Just a Macho Brace. -_- I don't have a solid team for Battle Tower yet. -_-

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Old 06-23-2007, 02:49 PM   #420
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I don't have any of that. -_- Just a Macho Brace. -_- I don't have a solid team for Battle Tower yet. -_-

-_-
I meant Macho Brace. I don't know why I confused the two. And, uhm, if people want Pokerus, I can get it for you easily, as I have a host of them in boxes.

...just be warned that it spreads quick if you don't isolate it. What I do every once in a while is infect a party I'm not going to use and stick it in a box... so when I need it, I can pass it on.

Anyone who needs/wants Pokerus should PM me or something -- just know that I am around very sporatically, and I work nights.
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