Things about fighting games that often piss you off

[Vangulus The Great]

For the last time, Smash Brothers is not a fighting game. Sakurai even said it himself. It's a glorified multiplayer platformer/party game. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Also stop praising Melty Blood so damn much. It's just a Guilty Gear wannabe with more lolis. Also, nothing wrong with that. It's still a good game.

Street Fighter IV=Street Fighter II minus total balance

The lack of Sakura still infuriates me and I don't even play with her.

Marvel VS. Capcom 2 and all of it's fans can go die in a fire. Your metagame sucked after you realized only 7 characters were good and everyone except casuals and specialists ignored the rest completely. WE KNOW MAGNETO IS BROKEN, STOP KICKING MY ASS WITH HIM!

Killer Instinct was and will always be better than Mortal Kombat (Yes, even Ultimate MK3) despite how much they ripped off from MK.

Arcana Heart is decent. Stop trolling the hell out of it for being so moe~~. There's a good fighting game under that weeaboo shell,

I never played any SNK fighters other than Samurai Shodown 5 and Mark of The Wolves.

Virtual Fighter was here. Tekken is a loser.

Soul Caliber IV is trying too much to be like Dead Or Alive AND NO ONE CARES! Other than Vader and Yoda there NO NEW MALE CHARACTERS. For a reason I can't expain this is irking the hell out of me.

[Excel-2009]

Variety is dead?

[VGD]

Originally Posted by Dark Coz

3. People who spam the same move that was really effective without any penalty. Kinda like campers in FPS titles as a cheap tactic.

If you're so bothered about it, then find a way to counter it. If any 'fighting' game truely has a spammable non-counterable move, then it must not be a good fighting game anyway.

Originally Posted by Eggman

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Over-competitiveness totally kills games. If it's really obvious that someone has never played a character before or if they're trying to go through single player or something, don't fuckin walk up and put your tokens in without asking just because you feel the need to boost your win count. Aggggh I hate that so much.

That's just poor etiquette on their part. We usually ask the person playing if he wants to versus us first before we challenge him.

Originally Posted by Vangulus The Great

Marvel VS. Capcom 2 and all of it's fans can go die in a fire. Your metagame sucked after you realized only 7 characters were good and everyone except casuals and specialists ignored the rest completely. WE KNOW MAGNETO IS BROKEN, STOP KICKING MY ASS WITH HIM!

Fucking Sentinel, goddamn. It's so enjoyable playing Servbot against a supposedly experienced Sentinel player. He can't hit shit.

Originally Posted by Vangulus The Great

Virtual Fighter was here. Tekken is a loser.

Tekken was here, Soul Calibur is a loser.

[Cali]

How you know that SFIV = SVII without balance is beyond me, since its not anywhere near being released, or even completed yet I dont believe

Also, when I see "Killer instince will always be better than MK even though they ripped so much from MK", It reminds me of "ITG will always be so much better than DDR, even though they ripped so much from DDR".
The later case is absolutely false, however i havent played Killer Instinct in years, so I dont know about those two.

[Kyosuke Kagami]

No, Killer Instinct actually had its own elements and innovations which actually made it feel like an updated Mortal Kombat with more complexity. The ITG-DDR case is FAR from being a valid comparison.

[BemaniAK]

oh god, I played tekken 5 and dark resurrection so much, I became almost unstoppable with Marshall law.
then I go to play tekken 6 with high hopes of my skills and BAM half my memorized moves have been replaced and now I have to teach myself new combos... couldn't even last 2 matches.

[VGD]

Originally Posted by animekid3515

oh god, I played tekken 5 and dark resurrection so much, I became almost unstoppable with Marshall law.
then I go to play tekken 6 with high hopes of my skills and BAM half my memorized moves have been replaced and now I have to teach myself new combos... couldn't even last 2 matches.

What, you were expecting a game to remain exactly the same with each installment?

[Kyosuke Kagami]

Well, it happens in a lot of games

I don't remember feeling any important difference with Kaz in TTT, 4 and 5.

But maybe I can be wrong. Jin has suffered such a lot of changes in each sequel. Even though he totally changed in T4, in 5 he feels even weirder (and more balanced).

[kimcicle]

Originally Posted by Dark Coz

I've been doing a lot of research and was a fighting game guru since 1995 (when I was 9 years old) and noticed many ones that often make us cuss our breath out in many ways. Here are a few...

1. Cheap AI, even if you turn the difficulty to the easiest settings, I got my rear-end handed down too many times than not in many popular games. The worst was MKII's unrelenting difficulty in single-player arcade version, and it was toned to the lowest settings and it was just the first battle of the game.

2. Boss battles that require some large luck to beat (see the 2D Mortal Kombat games and Tekken 5 and Dark Resurrection's Jinpachi as prime examples).

3. People who spam the same move that was really effective without any penalty. Kinda like campers in FPS titles as a cheap tactic.

Did anyone talk about this yet? If not, leave feedback on this.

I hate people like you.

1. Who the fuck really cares about the AI? Fighting games are fun because you play against people, not against computers. MKII wasn't that bad in the arcade either; have you tried playing the port they put on the Midway Arcade Treasures 2 yet?

2. There's not too much luck associated with Jinpachi. Once you learn his move startups, its easy to sidestep and rush in with a quick launcher. His recovery frame count is -terrible-; if you can't sidestep and go into a bb combo, then how are you beating people at the arcade? It's pretty much the crux of any fighting game; they execute a move or command that causes you to have a frame advantage and you punish off of that.

3. I'll cover this later.

Originally Posted by animekid3515

oh god, I played tekken 5 and dark resurrection so much, I became almost unstoppable with Marshall law.
then I go to play tekken 6 with high hopes of my skills and BAM half my memorized moves have been replaced and now I have to teach myself new combos... couldn't even last 2 matches.

You too. If you're so dependent on a move list and wrote memorization, you'll never be a good fighting game player. It probably doesn't help either that he was near top tier in 5 / DR and is now mid/low tier in 6. So instead of skill, you relied on a character that was better than most of the characters in the game from the get-go. Hate to break it to you.

Originally Posted by Cali

I really hate when people spam moves.

There's a reason why specific moves are seen more often in gameplay; it's because it works. The down and dirty of it is that you play to win. If I'm playing somebody in 3S and they don't block overheads, you can be for sure that I'm going to be using those the whole time. You complain about people spamming moves, but why can't you defeat something so obvious and telegraphed as a single move done over and over? Are you such a poor player that he can’t counter that move? And if the move is, for whatever reason, extremely difficult to counter, then wouldn’t I be a fool for not using that move?

[Alonso]

Kimcicle is my new hero.

[BemaniAK]

Originally Posted by kimcicle

you relied on a character that was better than most of the characters in the game from the get-go. Hate to break it to you.

at least I stopped using mr. easy kick spammer hwoarang....
and I still used other characters such as kazuya, jin, yoshimitsu, on the same difficulty on my psp and at the arcade and such, you know, it's just my main was martial law since I'm a big Bruce Lee fan...

[kimcicle]

Originally Posted by animekid3515

at least I stopped using mr. easy kick spammer hwoarang....

If you're playing against retards, maybe it's a "easy kick spammer." Eddie / Christie is a better fit for a button mashing kick player. A deep Hwoarang player will be able to utilize any of the four forms that he uses (RFF / LFF / LFS / RFS), and also knows which moves can be carried over between stances and what can't be.

For instance, in LFS, pressing 1 yields a left jab, which does only 7 damage and hits high. In RFS, it's a spin back fist which does 14 damage and hits mid.

Not to mention chain and juggles with Hwoarang will force a player to switch stances, so in order to compete with anybody decent, if you're just spamming kicks, you're a scrub.

Maybe you should pick another game to mash buttons at. I hear Marvel vs Capcom 2 is pretty good for that.

[Irob]

fuck you dude

[BemaniAK]

Originally Posted by kimcicle

If you're playing against retards, maybe it's a "easy kick spammer." Eddie / Christie is a better fit for a button mashing kick player. A deep Hwoarang player will be able to utilize any of the four forms that he uses (RFF / LFF / LFS / RFS), and also knows which moves can be carried over between stances and what can't be.

perhaps I should properly explain myself.

I got tekken 3 back in the day, I was too young to understand the basics of chaining moves and blocking, so I basically pushed the same button over and over, and ended up being the best with hwoarang.
then I quit, and got tekken 5, and I mained hwoarang remembering being the best with him.
then I noticed something, I just had to push X and O randomly to easily beat matches, and I was getting bored and so then I tried other characters.
I found martial law to be pretty good, and he was based off bruce lee, I learned some combos with him and got into the more technical side with side-stepping and stopping throws like a year later and I got into using Jin, kazuya, wang, xiayou etc. I usually play on hard difficulty nowadays.
then I went to tekken 6 at sunnybank, thinking that like a lot of fighting games it would be a complete rehash, so I tried doing my standard combos with martial law, but half of them didn't string together like they did in tekken 5, and consequently this caused me to be utter shit because I didn't know half of the moveset anymore.

MVC2 sucks shit, waste of an ISO download.

[VGD]

Originally Posted by animekid3515

blablabla.

So what are you bitching about? You suck too much to simply relearn a moveset of a character?

MVC2 sucks shit, waste of an ISO download.

Fuck you too, mang.