The Virtual Console Thread

[HioMrSan]

Originally Posted by K0LD

Screw that, I want my healthy dose of Thunder Force III. What would also be nice is if they got any of the Raiden games on there. And, although I know the odds are not likely, if they put Starfox 2 up there, I'd love Nintendo forever.

You really want to pay for starfox 2? That game was horrible and was canned for a reason. I remember playing it and just thinking, "wow that is the stupidest idea I've ever seen". The whole transforming thing completely broke the game.

Yes, Raiden 2 and Fighters Jet, would be extremely awesome.

[Excel-2009]

Raiden got ported (aside from The Raiden Project)?

[HioMrSan]

Originally Posted by Excel-2007

Raiden got ported (aside from The Raiden Project)?

The original is on SNES

Raiden Densetsu JPN.
Raiden Trad US.

It's a steaming pile of shit.

Oh yea I forgot, It's also on the Jaguar:
Hence, You know its shit.

[Akira]

We all know that there is no wordfilter here but these words should be used properly.

HioMrSan, you better watch your language.

[DJ LongCat]

Originally Posted by HioMrSan

You really want to pay for starfox 2? That game was horrible and was canned for a reason. I remember playing it and just thinking, "wow that is the stupidest idea I've ever seen". The whole transforming thing completely broke the game.

They only way you could make an assumption like that is if you played the CES 1995 version what was ment to be played by the public and not the rom thats been floating around the internet that was never ment to be played.

Anyway, I want kirbys superstar to be out around when I get a Wii because that will kick ass.

[HioMrSan]

Originally Posted by Akira

We all know that there is no wordfilter here but these words whould be used properly.

HioMrSan, you better watch your language.

I can't call a game a peice of shit?...

They only way you could make an assumption like that is if you played the CES 1995 version what was ment to be played by the public and not the rom thats been floating around the internet that was never ment to be played.

I don't think we are technically supposed to talk about it, but whatever I'm not posting any rom links.

There's 3 (4-5ish including a translation) known SF2 releases.

There is the pre-beta release that is unplayable, and is based off an engine test of starfox1. Nothing is really known about it, except what I just said.

There is an early alpha build that is playable, but its very incomplete and is still based off the Super FX (The 1st one). They did have chibi heads inside the ships which was kinda cool. It was later removed.

Then recently there was a release of source code by an unknown source in 2002 for the completed japanese version of the game. It wasn't gold but it was very close, and it was farther along then what was shown at CES 1995. That game was fully complete, but contained a debug menu and some glitches.
In 2004 it was released after some developers finally figured out the compression used in the game, and was fully playable on zsnes.

Later in '04 there were 2 translations done to the game. The first was a simple translation and the 2nd translated and removed the glitches and debug menus.

So yea for all intensive purposes, Star Fox 2 Final has been released through a mixture of homebrew developers and smuggled out source code.
As cool as it is to be playing Star Fox 2, you'll realize that once you get past all the cool graphics and the strategy war map, the game is pretty bad.

[MidnightRecession]

Originally Posted by Akira

We all know that there is no wordfilter here but these words should be used properly.

HioMrSan, you better watch your language.

foul language is allowed in OG on my watch so ignore this post

Originally Posted by K0LD

Screw that, I want my healthy dose of Thunder Force III. What would also be nice is if they got any of the Raiden games on there. And, although I know the odds are not likely, if they put Starfox 2 up there, I'd love Nintendo forever.

Star Fox Command on the DS essentially is SF2 but with more polish and an irritating backstory. I wouldn't count on an actual port of the SNES game.

[AdamL00001]

Originally Posted by MDRL

Star Fox Command on the DS essentially is SF2 but with more polish and an irritating backstory. I wouldn't count on an actual port of the SNES game.

This would explain why I was horribly disappointed in my purchase. Personally, I blame Andrew Oikonny.

[SFKhoa]

Raiden was originally in the arcade, Raiden Trad/Densetsu are REALLY mediocre ports of it. I don't know about Super Raiden on the PCE-CD though.

I was playing Soldier Blade the other night, and now, I'm hoping they REALLY put this in the Virtual Console, this game just OWNS Super Star Soldier in so many ways, despite it being by Hudson Soft as well.

[HioMrSan]

Originally Posted by SFKhoa

Raiden was originally in the arcade, Raiden Trad/Densetsu are REALLY mediocre ports of it. I don't know about Super Raiden on the PCE-CD though.

I was playing Soldier Blade the other night, and now, I'm hoping they REALLY put this in the Virtual Console, this game just OWNS Super Star Soldier in so many ways, despite it being by Hudson Soft as well.

Yea the arcade version of Raiden is pretty good, as are the games on raiden project. The ports of Trad/Densetsu are absolutely horrible however.

[桜の色]

Originally Posted by HioMrSan

Can anyone confirm if these games are actually independent software rather than just roms running on a generic emulator?. Honestly whats the reason for them holding out if it is just a rom? Wouldn't they make more money to have Super Mario World out on launch day?...

I think Nintendo's mentality is this - pretty much everyone wants the popular titles (Super Mario World, Super Metroid, Chrono Trigger, Super Mario RPG and the like), of course. But they don't want to throw them out on launch for a few reasons:

1 - the bugs in the browser and service haven't been worked out. They might be wanting to work some more bugs out before throwing up a hugely popular game that could slow the download service to a crawl.

2 - The Wii is still in limited enough supply that it doesn't really warrant the release of the major VC titles just yet. They may want to wait until after Christmas to set up the major titles, that way people can get familarised with how the system works and will have it hooked up to the Internet.

and 3 - Those are the most popular games, meaning Nintendo KNOWS they will be downloaded and purchased. I think they want to establish the VC with some less well known games first and get people into trying games they haven't played before or games that they remembered playing, but forgot all about. Everyone remembers Mario, Link and Samus. But how many people remember the original Gunstar Heroes? I think it's a marketing move to get people to try out the Virtual Console first without the big name titles and then fill in those gaps later, making Nintendo more money in the long run.

[Emerald Osprey]

Maybe I'm crazy, but I kinda look forward to seeing what games come out every week. If all the good games came out at once there would be no anticipation. That and I would instantly go broke.

So far the only two games I've picked up are Wario's Woods and Legend of Zelda. I never got to play the original Zelda when it came out, so I picked it up a week or so after I got my Wii. I have to say, that game is still surprisingly fun for being more than twenty years old. (Plus my boyfriend gets to make fun of me for sucking at it so bad. :P )

As for Wario's Woods, all I have to say is that it is the most intense puzzle game I've ever played. There's just so much going on it's hard to keep track of everything. That said, it's still quite fun.

I'm probably gonna pick up Echo at some point. I remember liking that game way back when. I'm just so busy with other games, I don't have time right now.

Lastly, I'm still waiting for Donkey Kong Country 2. I love that game so much.

[Excel-2009]

I noticed that the copyright line in the Legend of Zelda title screen reads ©1986-2003 Nintendo. Why was it not extended to 2006?

[AdamL00001]

My guess is that they ripped the port straight from the Gamecube limited-edition release.

[Eggman]

Nintendo's confirmed their VC releases for this coming Monday (Christmas). None of them are free. They are:

Super Mario Bros (NES), Street Fighter II (SNES), R-TYPE (TG-16), Toe Jam & Earl (Genesis) and last but certainly not least, SUPER CASTLEVANIA 4 (SNES).

Yeah. It'll be a good Christmas.