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02-09-2008, 12:05 AM
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#1 | | //bemanistyle::[Member]
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Marketplace Rating: 0 | [PSYCHEDELLIC] Digital Dimension ~Psy Trance Remake~ There is nothing here any more. Please delete this thread.
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02-09-2008, 09:17 AM
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#2 | | //bemanistyle::[Member]
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Marketplace Rating: 0 | First off, there's one l in "psychedelic," for the record.
Furthermore, sir, not to be rude or something, but despite your very insistant assertions that this is psychedelic, it, quite frankly, is not psychedelic at all. I can state this with tremendous certainty.
ps I love how blatant it is which producers are intimately familiar with what the psychedelic genres are about and which aren't. It gives me a Cheshire Cat grin. B)
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#3 | | PS3lix Eternal
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Marketplace Rating: 3 | This is very repetitive and not at all psychedelic. I wouldn't recommend trying to make it psy because it would take a lot more effort than it's worth, just give it an appropriate genre like video game music or minimal electronic.
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#4 | | //bemanistyle::[Member]
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Marketplace Rating: 0 | Sry. I didn't know what to call it. First off, it's not breakbeat like the original, and second of all, I have no freaking clue what the difference between psy trance and minimalism is. Third, the original is extremely repetitive (if you don't believe me, play Sonic Riders, or listen to the OST version of it), and fourth, I gave both versions, the short
and the long. The long is repetitive, and the short is not.
If you want to delete this thread so be it. I know it sounds crappy, and I really don't give a damn. I don't like the original to begin with, and I couldn't care less what my mix of this sounds like. I did this for a friend.
The Rai-Rai: I hate psy trance to begin with. I think it sounds discoordinated, I like normal trance. The only psy song I like is Spiral Galaxy, the rest sound horrible to me.
I will continue to submit songs here, whether people like them or not. Have a good day!
P.S. who cares if I suck at psy trance! You guys are right. I don't know what psychedelic trance is, and I don't really care to know either. Have a good day!!!
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#5 | | PS3lix Eternal
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Marketplace Rating: 3 | Learn to take criticism and not be offended dude, don't get all butthurt about it.
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#6 | | KAWAII DESU NE!
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Originally Posted by Tetris second of all, I have no freaking clue what the difference between psy trance and minimalism | Wow Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris Third, the original is extremely repetitive (if you don't believe me, play Sonic Riders, or listen to the OST version of it) | Theres nothing cuter than when people counter criticism with excuses, and guess what? You just used the most common one: its meant to suck
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Originally Posted by Tetris Sry. I didn't know what to call it. First off, it's not breakbeat like the original, and second of all, I have no freaking clue what the difference between psy trance and minimalism is. Third, the original is extremely repetitive (if you don't believe me, play Sonic Riders, or listen to the OST version of it), and fourth, I gave both versions, the short
and the long. The long is repetitive, and the short is not.
If you want to delete this thread so be it. I know it sounds crappy, and I really don't give a damn. I don't like the original to begin with, and I couldn't care less what my mix of this sounds like. I did this for a friend.
The Rai-Rai: I hate psy trance to begin with. I think it sounds discoordinated, I like normal trance. The only psy song I like is Spiral Galaxy, the rest sound horrible to me.
I will continue to submit songs here, whether people like them or not. Have a good day!
P.S. who cares if I suck at psy trance! You guys are right. I don't know what psychedelic trance is, and I don't really care to know either. Have a good day!!! | Are you thirteen? Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris I think [psy trance] sounds discoordinated | Either you've been listening to the wrong stuff or you don't have the tiniest clue what you're talking about.
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#8 | | //bemanistyle::[Member]
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Originally Posted by The Rai-Rai Are you thirteen?
Either you've been listening to the wrong stuff or you don't have the tiniest clue what you're talking about. |
First answer: no, I'm 15. So what if I am young.
Second: I don't like the sound of psychedelic.
Third: I don't know why I even started this thread on a song that I didn't even care for to begin with. I think I was wired at the time
Fourth: I DEMAND this be forgotten about, and this thread PERMANENTLY locked. | |
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02-09-2008, 11:47 PM
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#9 | | KAWAII DESU NE!
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Marketplace Rating: 23 | You go from saying you don't know what the difference is between psychedelic and minimalism (which are two very different genres fyi) to saying you don't like how "discordinated" psychedelic is.
What is this telling us about how much time and effort you put into listening to the genre to begin with?
You know why you started the thread? Because you thought you had a decent thing going on but it turned out not being that great. It happens all the time on this forum, and it only proves that you are a human being. Stop acting like you didn't care about the song because the fact of the matter is, you went out of your way to upload it and share it on this forum.
All artists go through a lot of negative criticism. What separates a good artist to a bad artist is that the good artist listens and learns while the bad artist stays on his path to mediocrity. What road do you want to choose? Quote:
Originally Posted by The Chemist Now stop being a little bitch and learn from your mistakes. |
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02-10-2008, 12:18 AM
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#10 | | //bemanistyle::[Member]
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Marketplace Rating: 0 | I started this thread in the intent of proving I can do other styles of music. Just because I uploaded it means I care for the song. Half of the songs I upload I don't exactly care for, I just upload them for the fact I can show them off EASIER at school than typing in my entire putfile site.
I do accept negative critisism, but not when it's presented in the way of an insult. I have no faith in my abilities, and people feed into it. You are talking to someone who is on his 5th month of music lessons. I don't know as much as everyone here as far as music goes, and I try to make the best of it. I spent HOURS making this song as decent as I could for my friend, even though I didn't care for it.
You can call me a bitch all you want. I frankly dont give a damn. I have been through enough crap on this forum that I have never been through on any other. I just joined for the simfiles in the first place. I have more respect on the foreign forums than here. I have already recieved one warning, I have gotten into disputes with many members, and I can just sense within the next few months I will be banned. I haven't even had best introduction here.
I apologize for being an annoyance, but this is not a way to treat a beginner at music genre labeling. Not to long ago I used to treat all dance as "techno," like the most of the world. Give me some credit for Trying to come up with an acceptable genre name.
Plus, you try composing music with FL 3. It's really really really hard, because everything sounds fake. I have been downloading "real" sounds for it, but nothing seems to be working.
The Chemist: It's not that I didn't care about this mix. What I was trying to say is I DON'T LIKE THE ORIGINAL TO BEGIN WITH. NOT MY OWN MIX.. I deleted the link to not cause anymore problems against me.
P.S. I am not in the greatest moods, and I don't feel like being banned, so please, don't mess with my anger. Quote:
Originally Posted by The Chemist Wow
Theres nothing cuter than when people counter criticism with excuses, and guess what? You just used the most common one: its meant to suck | YouTube - Sonic Riders Music-- Digital Dimension
IMO, it's terrible. It's repetitive, and after playing the level 564684106 times, it gets tiresome, and that's the reason I don't think too highly of my remix. Quote:
Originally Posted by helix eternal Learn to take criticism and not be offended dude, don't get all butthurt about it. | I'm not offended. I enjoy arguing. It helps me with debates amongst school....
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Heh, I guess I got a bit carried away...
If you want the link(s) back, I can re-post them (I'm in a better mood now, after seeing spending time with my girlfriend).
So, what is the difference between techno styles. I know straight up eurobeat, trance, techno, happy hardcore, gabba, *um*, that's about it...
EDIT EDIT: YouTube - Sonic Riders Music-- Babylon Garden
Is this psychedelic? Because if it is, I love psy then. I really love this song.
When I was thinking of discoordinated, I was thinking a beatmania song that I don't like (that I won't say because I would get seriously attacked) that is psychedelic.
It's amazing what talking to your girlfriend does to your state of mood.
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#11 | | KAWAII DESU NE!
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Originally Posted by Tetris Half of the songs I upload I don't exactly care for | Then may I ask why the fuck are you wasting our time posting shit you don't even care for on a forum intended for (for the most part) serious musicians and producers? Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris I do accept negative critisism, but not when it's presented in the way of an insult. | Please, show me where you were insulted. I'll be sure to go spank whoever insulted you, in all seriousness. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris I have no faith in my abilities, and people feed into it. You are talking to someone who is on his 5th month of music lessons. I don't know as much as everyone here as far as music goes, and I try to make the best of it. I spent HOURS making this song as decent as I could for my friend, even though I didn't care for it. | I just talked about excuses. You are wasting your breathe. I wish you would just look at what you are writing and realize how ridiculous you are being about this entire thread. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris You can call me a bitch all you want. I frankly dont give a damn. | You heard that right Helix? Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris | Excuses.....excuses.....excuses.... Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris I apologize (???¿¿¿¿¿????) for being an annoyance, but this is not a way to treat a beginner at music genre labeling. Not to long ago I used to treat all dance as "techno," like the most of the world. Give me some credit for Trying to come up with an acceptable genre name. | Last time I checked, all Rai Rai did was correct your persistence on calling it psytrance. Thats it. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris Plus, you try composing music with FL 3. It's really really really hard, because everything sounds fake. I have been downloading "real" sounds for it, but nothing seems to be working. | Me, and many other people on this site, began composing music on FL. There are professionals who use FL as their main sequencer. Are you blaming your program now? What the fuck did I just say about excuses? Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris P.S. I am not in the greatest moods, and I don't feel like being banned, so please, don't mess with my anger. | Are you gonna go hulk on me or something? Please, quiet. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris | WTF excuses excuses excuses
After listening to the song, you realize that you essentially were trying to remix a 10 second loop right? Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris I'm not offended. I enjoy arguing. It helps me with debates amongst school.... | So basically what youre saying is that you will argue even if you're obviously the one that is out of line. And you mentioned you've been warned on this site before? What a shock! Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris If you want the link(s) back, I can re-post them (I'm in a better mood now, after seeing spending time with my girlfriend). | You know, somehow I know that I don't have to remind you that there was never an issue over you taking off your song. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris So, what is the difference between techno styles. I know straight up eurobeat, trance, techno, happy hardcore, gabba, *um*, that's about it... | Now the learning begins:
While genres can be argued endlessly, for the most part, there are middle grounds that most of us will agree on. As a matter of fact, it can be argued that "techno" is a genre in itself, and is just another one of hundreds of genre of "electronic" music. Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music | New Home on Techno.org
While I do not agree with a lot of this, this is the most extensive collection of electronic genres on the internet. They even play samples of music to give you an idea of what they are. Again, take everything with a grain of salt, and eventually you'll find your own thinking as to what is x and what is y. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris | I suppose you can say it has some goa (which is related to psytrance) elements, but only in the pad melody. This is video game music. Period. YouTube - Infected Mushroom - Deeply Disturbed (Infected Remix)
This is an example of psytrance. A 1/4 beat, bounce hi hat line, TB303 bassline. You have psytrance. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris When I was thinking of discoordinated, I was thinking a beatmania song that I don't like (that I won't say because I would get seriously attacked) that is psychedelic. | Don't pay attention to genres in IIDX. For some reason people take them very seriously but the fact of the matter is, artists just slap on a genre, some of which don't even exist (for example, wtf is Africa?).
Also what song is it anyway. I promise I won't give a damn.
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#12 | | //bemanistyle::[Member]
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Originally Posted by The Chemist Also what song is it anyway. I promise I won't give a damn. | Giudecca. It annoys me to this very day. I like all other D.J.Setup songs, but this one gives me problems for some reason...
Also, I wasn't to fond of Changes by TaQ. I thought it sounded to "simple" (my word from early 2006 describing songs that lacked complicated melodies and complicated synth or piano lines)...'
P.S. The beatmania Giudecca's sample is "f*** it!" and the DDR Ultramix Giudecca's sample is "rock it," am I not correct? That means Konami censored Giudecca when it made it to America. Cool.
I guess I was in a bad mood because I missed my gf, and I didn't have caffine... Oops, withdrawl..
But yeah... I am borderline sick of the level music, I guess, I should choose a song I like better next time. My friend and I play this level all the time (the only multiplayer level on Sonic Riders that I can actually pass without losing control), and after the 134th time, the music gets to be REALLY annoying... I have played the level 210 times (according to the records mode).
I expect a punishment for token whoring??? Ugh...
EDIT: I just donated the 200 tokens I obtained from this argument to a user, now I'm back where I started...
The argument never took place ^_^ *lock the thread, please. really, no purpose left.*
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#13 | | //bemanistyle::[Member]
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Originally Posted by Tetris First answer: no, I'm 15. So what if I am young. | Way to miss the point. I simply asserting that you are being absurdly imature. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris Second: I don't like the sound of psychedelic. | You don't even know what psychedelic is. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris Third: I don't know why I even started this thread on a song that I didn't even care for to begin with. | You clearly cared for it, and you were very excited about it. That much is obvious to anyone who saw your original post. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris I think I was wired at the time | This is a positively ridiculous excuse. You're making yourself look like a fool. There isn't anyone in this thread so far who doesn't see through your childish psychological defense mechanisms (other than, perhaps, you). Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris Fourth: I DEMAND this be forgotten about, and this thread PERMANENTLY locked. | UH OH, I GOT THE GENRE WRONG ON A SONG AND PEOPLE POINTED IT OUT AND SAID THAT THE SONG ISN'T THAT GREAT OMG TOTAL EMBARASSMENT
Seriously, no one was really holding that against you. You began digging yourself a hole when you began flipping the fuck out like an autistic kid at a metal show. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris I started this thread in the intent of proving I can do other styles of music. | Just sounds like trance to me. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris Just because I uploaded it means I care for the song. | Well, yeah, in some sense. But mostly because you raved about it in a very proud manner even more than I've seen you do with any of your other music. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris Half of the songs I upload I don't exactly care for, I just upload them for the fact I can show them off EASIER at school than typing in my entire putfile site. | Uhhh, you're uploading them to "show them off" at school? You care for them. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris I do accept negative critisism, but not when it's presented in the way of an insult. | Are you fucking kidding? I even went out of my way to say "sir, not to be rude or something, but"... Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris I have no faith in my abilities | Choice A: get some
Choice B: stop making art forever Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris and people feed into it. | o lawd Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris You are talking to someone who is on his 5th month of music lessons. I don't know as much as everyone here as far as music goes, and I try to make the best of it. | Since when are music lessons indicative of musical ability? Particularly electronically! Unless you happen to be taking electronic music lessons, which I am somehow managing to find doubtful.
I don't take "music lessons," and I'm a more skilled musician than you are. Guess what else? I had to make a lot of shitty music and get a lot of negative feedback in order to learn to make good music. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris I spent HOURS making this song as decent as I could for my friend, | Are you implying that you don't normally spend hours on your music? I usually spend DAYS on my really comprehensive stuff. Some of my music has been in the works for over a year. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris even though I didn't care for it. | lolol Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris You can call me a bitch all you want. I frankly dont give a damn. | If you didn't give a damn, you wouldn't be making these ludicrous outbursts. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris I have been through enough crap on this forum that I have never been through on any other. | Maybe that's because you can't take negative feedback. Jeeze. Hell, what you originally flipped out at wasn't even negative feedback, it was a simple correction! Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris I just joined for the simfiles in the first place. I have more respect on the foreign forums than here. I have already recieved one warning, I have gotten into disputes with many members, and I can just sense within the next few months I will be banned. I haven't even had best introduction here. | Then chill the fuck out! Christ. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris I apologize for being an annoyance, but this is not a way to treat a beginner at music genre labeling. Not to long ago I used to treat all dance as "techno," like the most of the world. Give me some credit for Trying to come up with an acceptable genre name. | Correction is not a way to treat beginners? Oh, and here I thought it would be helpful to find out when you're wrong. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris Plus, you try composing music with FL 3. It's really really really hard, because everything sounds fake. I have been downloading "real" sounds for it, but nothing seems to be working. | hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahaha Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris It's not that I didn't care about this mix. | Funny, that's the opposite of what you said before... Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris What I was trying to say is I DON'T LIKE THE ORIGINAL TO BEGIN WITH. NOT MY OWN MIX.. | I've run into plenty of good remixes of shitty songs. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris I deleted the link to not cause anymore problems against me. | Uhh, what? hahahaha Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris P.S. I am not in the greatest moods, and I don't feel like being banned, so please, don't mess with my anger. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris | Sounds better than the remix, though. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris and that's the reason I don't think too highly of my remix. | I repeat: I've heard plenty of good remixes of shitty songs. The original song is no excuse. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris I'm not offended. | Funny, that's certainly what it looks like! Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris I enjoy arguing. It helps me with debates amongst school.... | If this is how you debate, then you must be a terrible debater. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris Heh, I guess I got a bit carried away... | You think? Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris If you want the link(s) back, I can re-post them (I'm in a better mood now, after seeing spending time with my girlfriend). | Awwww, did she let you hold her hand? OMG did u kis her on da cheeeeek :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris So, what is the difference between techno styles. I know straight up eurobeat, trance, techno, happy hardcore, gabba, *um*, that's about it... | Techno is not a blanket term for electronic music. Techno is an electronic genre itself.
If you want some relatively comprehensive but sometimes somewhat skewed information about electronic genres, check out Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music | New Home on Techno.org Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris When I was thinking of discoordinated, I was thinking a beatmania song that I don't like (that I won't say because I would get seriously attacked) that is psychedelic. | Jesus Christ! Did you just say that your opinion of the genre is based on beatmania music? What the fuck? Not to mention that you're basing your opinion on an entire genre on ONE SONG in the first place. Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris It's amazing what talking to your girlfriend does to your state of mood. | DID U HERE DAT GUYS!? HIS GIRLFRIEND!!!!!!!! GIRLFRIEND ALERT POST ABOUT IT
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Marketplace Rating: 0 | I'm over it now!!! Do you not see the other posts at the end. For god's sake! Geez!! Why continue?? | |
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Originally Posted by Tetris !!! | Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris !! | Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris ?? | You are clearly still excited, sir. 8)
Also I had points to make.
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