ATi VS nVidia

ian209 · 10-18-2006, 06:29 PM

This sounds... nerdy i guess, but which company do u guys prefer?

I personally would go with ATi. U get HDR and anti-aliasing simultaneously and their X1950XTX card beats all of nVidia's single GPU cards. nVidia has the fastest card only cause it has Dual Gpus.... personally i think its a peice of junk and is useless because NO GAME currently would even require such a card, UNLESS you are a supernerd and play everygame at 1600X1200 with max settings. Frankly, crossfire and SLi are both useless, unless u wanna use 2 budget cards. Anyways, I'll go with ATi and always have every since the Radeon X1900 series came out

Akkaraju · 10-18-2006, 11:40 PM

ATi was a company i liked for the longest while, due to it being Canadian based and all, but soon enough I ended up getting Nvidia cards instead because ATi started lagging behind for a while, and just weren't topping Nvidia at the time.

In all seriousness I wouldn't buy a card just because you can have HDR lighting and AA at the same time. And pretty soon, Nvidia will top the X1950XTX anyways, and only by a little. In the long run, it doesn't really matter which you pick, as each usually suceeds the other with a slightly more powerful card, or a large leap forward that gets topped anyways.

Also, quad SLi IS a joke, but it does cater to the people who seriously want tons of power at once. SLi and Crossfire aren't really much better, but the benefits are more tangible and actually noticable, rather frame rate gains that don't affect the human perception of a game anyways, just done for sheer numbers.

kimcicle · 10-19-2006, 12:05 AM

It's not really that ATi lagged behind, it's that the card generations are spaced so that the newest nVidia chipset comes out right between the old and new ATi chipsets and the same with the companies switched. That's why the X1950XTX is currently beating all current nVidia cards; you're compairing it to a generation of video cards that are 1/2 a generation behind the current ATi setup. Also, the cost to preformance ratio for cards like that is, frankly, beyond stupid. That same card will be the same price as today's midranged cards as soon as the new nVidia chipset comes out.

Crossfire and SLi may seem like a bad idea when you want to straight up buy two cards right now, but think about it two years down the row. You have a Crossfire motherboard and a previous generation midrange crossfire card (say, x850 or so). Your inital investment of $300 (pulling a number out of the sky) does depreciate, but the older card will drop in price. For a much lower fee (probably around $100 if you shop around), your Crossfire system should have compariable ablilites to a brand new $300 video card.

ATi cards can be very finickey, and for system stability it's wiser to go with a nVidia card.

For the love of christ do some goddamn research before going off on an ATi fanboy tyrade.

TougaKiryuu · 10-19-2006, 12:08 AM

I love ATI and all but jesus christ where's the linux support

Megamanny · 10-19-2006, 12:48 AM

Nvidia

Cheaper
More powerful
Very good Warranty

I've had nothing but problems with ATI cards including their dam tv tuners.

Amp Divorax · 10-19-2006, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TougaKiryuu

I love ATI and all but jesus christ where's the linux support

In the case of ATI, the words Linux Support is like speaking Arabic to them as they have been stating for 2 and a half years now that they would get the speed to match Windows and THEY NEVER DID! It's cause of this BS and the YEARS of driver problems that I've seen ranging from their Rage 128 to their newest Catalyst using videocards that have caused me to have no trust in them at all. My experiences with Nvidia on the other hand have been very good, espically with Linux.

**dieKatze88** · 10-19-2006, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Amp Divorax

In the case of ATI, the words Linux Support is like speaking Arabic to them as they have been stating for 2 and a half years now that they would get the speed to match Windows and THEY NEVER DID! It's cause of this BS and the YEARS of driver problems that I've seen ranging from their Rage 128 to their newest Catalyst using videocards that have caused me to have no trust in them at all. My experiences with Nvidia on the other hand have been very good, espically with Linux.

And this is one of the two main reasons I support Nvidia. FireGL is a great Driver... When it works. Ive only had it work once, that was when I had ubuntu on my thinkpad (this was before the lawsuit crap) and it almost matched speed with my windows drivers.

That's pathetic. the Nvidia drivers for linux blow the windows drivers away. I get 4x the speed in Doom 3 on the same hardware.

HioMrSan · 10-19-2006, 08:33 AM

I like nVidia personally, but right now ATI cards just have such nicer quality.

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personally i think its a peice of junk and is useless because NO GAME currently would even require such a card, UNLESS you are a supernerd and play everygame at 1600X1200 with max settings.

Can you say, Widescreen monitor? Not everyone is running old hardware. PLENTY of people want games with high framerates with that resolution. Its not even that unrealistic. Look at Oblivion. You'd have to spend probably around 800-1000 dollars to run that game maxed out with that resolution at a framerate above 30.

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Frankly, crossfire and SLi are both useless, unless u wanna use 2 budget cards

I'm running in SLI two e-GeForce 7950GT KO 512mb. They aren't top of the line, high end, but more Highish Midrange. I can strain those cards on modern games.

Opethian · 10-19-2006, 09:34 AM

ive been using ATi since my Radeon9000 but before that it was VooDoo (hooray for 3DFX) had great success with my Radeon 9000, 9600XT, and 9800 Pro
even though im still running AGP ive had no problem with ATi i had a minor VGA port glitch on my 9800 but i sent it back and got it replaced within 3 weeks its been running fine for 3 years now

***red shoe paul*** · 10-19-2006, 11:27 AM

I love NVidia, but I bought an ATi x800 Pro. Next card I'm getting is an x1950 or even a GeForce 7950 GX2. Both cards are simply amazing.

Amp Divorax · 10-19-2006, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by red shoe paul

I love NVidia, but I bought an ATi x800 Pro. Next card I'm getting is an x1950 or even a GeForce 7950 GX2. Both cards are simply amazing.

Be warned, the Geforce 8800 is coming out soon so I say wait until it comes out to get the 7950 GX2 for much cheaper.

tier2geek · 10-20-2006, 10:42 PM

I've always been a Nvidia supporter due to their awesome hardware and prices. (and just because I like them, got a problem with that?) Ati does have it's perks and does come out with awesome hardware too but they still don't seem quite as par as Nvidia in quality. I dunno, but that's simply my opinion. But it's kind of funny isn't it? How people tend to side with either only Ati or only Nvidia but not both equally? It's the same with just about everything.. I guess it's Human Nature to pick sides?

ian209 · 10-24-2006, 11:17 PM

Its gonna be interesting to see whos futuregen card will prevail... ATi's R600 or nVidia's G80

Amp Divorax · 10-25-2006, 01:23 AM

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Its gonna be interesting to see whos futuregen card will prevail... ATi's R600 or nVidia's G80

$5 says Nvidia's G80 gets Linux support first, so I'll go with them!

vic_lmc · 10-26-2006, 03:25 PM

Well, I think that every company (called ati or nvidia) has thier respective products for your needs, and thinkig about this I had a Radeon 9250 and FX5200 and I test 'em and I played two games: NFS Underground and Silent Hill4, and the performance of everyone was good, but the detail begins there, when I used Ati with NFS it has a better performance than nvidia card, but in SH4 nvidia had better performance so you choose.

In my opinion every one have excellent products

Ah...
another thing is that the price of the two cards was really semejant.