Choosing on New Graphics Card

[GameboyKnight]

I have a choice between two Graphics Card and just looking at numbers and letters, means nothing to me. One is an Intel Graphics Card, I think it's the most recent, and the other is VisionTek. Not really clear on the specifications and stuff. <.<

[WiLLiSTER]

So uh, some kind of specs would be nice. Maybe a link to each of them. Or possibly what kind of cards your motherboard supports.

Any of those things would be cool.

[DeusExMachina]

It would also be nice to specify which GPU you are going for. ATI or Nvidia?

I never knew Intel made graphics cards. I thought they only had integrated graphics within their motherboards.

[GameboyKnight]

VisionTek Specifications
ATI RADEON™ X1300 Visual processing Unit
256MB DDR2 Memory
PCI Bus (3.3v)
450MHz VPU clock
533MHz memory clock
90 nanometer GPU
Ultra threaded core 3D architecture
Avivo™ display enhancement technology
Shader model 3.0

Intel 865G Chipset
Target Segment Mainstream PC
Processor Positioned Intel® Pentium® D, Intel® Pentium® 4, Celeron®, or Celeron® D processor
Processor mPGA478,
LGA775 (Lead free)
Hyper-Threading Technology1 Optimized for HT Technology
System Bus 800/533/400 MHz
Max Memory 4 GB
Memory Modules 2 DIMMs/2 channel
Memory Type Dual-Channel:,
DDR 400/333/266
FSB/Memory Configurations 800/400,
800/333,
533/333,
533/266,
400/333,
400/266
Integrated Graphics Type Intel® Extreme Graphics 2
External Graphics Interface AGP8X (1.5V)
PCI Support PCI 2.3
Storage Interface/Ports SATA 150/2
Storage Technology RAID w/ICH5R
Memory Controller Hub 82865G GMCH
Supported Intel I/O Controller ICH5 / ICH5R
PCI Masters 6
USB Ports/Controllers 8 ports, USB 2.0
Audio AC’97/20-bit audio

These are the two that I am comparing.

[WiLLiSTER]

You're comparing a motherboard and a graphics card?

If you get that card make sure you get it in AGP not PCI.

[DeusExMachina]

One is a motherboard, and the other is a video card, two completely different things.

Second of all, the Radeon X1300 is a PCI-e interface, its not going to work on that motherboard you specified.

Mainstream PC? That motherboard (based on its specs) looks at least 3 or 4 years old.

[WiLLiSTER]

Originally Posted by DeusExMachina

Second of all, the Radeon X1300 is a PCI-e interface, its not going to work on that motherboard you specified.

They carry them in pci, agp, and pci-e formats, so he's ok as long as he gets the agp card.

Why get the agp card, you might be asking yourself. Because that's the type of video card your motherboard supports.

[eureka1]

they're both not specified for graphics really, more just for creating images on your monitor

they'll both die if you try gaming on them..

try get a ATI radeon 9800 pro or nvidia Geforce 7600 gs, if you have agp :P

[WiLLiSTER]

1. That first line doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Clarify?

2. Depends on what he wants to run with it. It'd just just fine for stuff like Warcraft 3.

3. Maybe he doesn't want to shell out that much money? I can only assume that if he's looking at stuff around the x1300 mark. Or maybe that's just because he doesn't know much about this stuff.

[stuartwood89]

I have an ASUS GeForce 7600 GS, PCIe though, but it's a good card. Look for one of them, in AGP of course.

[kimcicle]

Originally Posted by eureka1

they're both not specified for graphics really, more just for creating images on your monitor

they'll both die if you try gaming on them..

try get a ATI radeon 9800 pro or nvidia Geforce 7600 gs, if you have agp :P

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 9800 Pro?

That's, what, FOUR years old? For the love of Christ at least recommend a comparable card. You can get X1950s in AGP. The X1300 is a perfectly fine AGP budget gaming solution if you don't want to max out stuff and play the most demanding games. It'll handle most mainstream stuff like HL2 and World of Warcraft just fine.

Even then, we don't even know what the hell the original poster has in the first place. It seems like they are trying to stretch to get a video card without knowing the basic parts of a PC. For all we know he could have some weird backwards Dell that lacks AGP and PCIe slots.

[Lyth]

Originally Posted by kimcicle

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 9800 Pro?

That's, what, FOUR years old? For the love of Christ at least recommend a comparable card. You can get X1950s in AGP. The X1300 is a perfectly fine AGP budget gaming solution if you don't want to max out stuff and play the most demanding games. It'll handle most mainstream stuff like HL2 and World of Warcraft just fine.

An X1950 on AGP will most likely have bottleneck performance, depending on the CPU the guy has.

An X1300 on AGP (which is what I'm running on at the moment) plays my mainstream games at high-to-max settings. I'm pretty happy with it.

GameboyKnight, if you really had to choose only between that Intel chipset and the X1300, go with the X1300 (the AGP version, that is). A dedicated graphics card is almost always better than an integrated one. :P

[Geschpooklichkeit]

Especially if you have a GeForce 6600 integrated that reserves 256 MB of system memory.

[eureka1]

Originally Posted by kimcicle

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 9800 Pro?

That's, what, FOUR years old? For the love of Christ at least recommend a comparable card. You can get X1950s in AGP. The X1300 is a perfectly fine AGP budget gaming solution if you don't want to max out stuff and play the most demanding games. It'll handle most mainstream stuff like HL2 and World of Warcraft just fine.

Even then, we don't even know what the hell the original poster has in the first place. It seems like they are trying to stretch to get a video card without knowing the basic parts of a PC. For all we know he could have some weird backwards Dell that lacks AGP and PCIe slots.

shows what you know :P the 9800 pro is still better than the crappy x1300 and not much slower than the x1600 :P

hell my 3? year old 6800 gt is faster than a x1650 pro.. low/mid end cards suck

[WiLLiSTER]

Originally Posted by eureka1

shows what you know :P the 9800 pro is still better than the crappy x1300 and not much slower than the x1600 :P

hell my 3? year old 6800 gt is faster than a x1650 pro.. low/mid end cards suck

Please, do explain how a 9800 is better than the x1300.