iPhone 3g

[WEABOO]

The part where you call 70 dollars a bad deal

[alexquick]

oh. ok. i guess it's just personal then. i hate paying more than $50 for my phone... guess i'm stuck in the past.

edit: apparently text messaging is no longer included either.

[WEABOO]

EDIT: Just read this dated 06/11/08:

Based on various interviews with AT&T representatives, it appears that activation will be carried out in-store at time of purchase. This is reportedly to deter individuals from unlocking phones for use on other carriers or other countries. Since $199 represents the subsidized price from AT&T, it is understandable that they wish to ensure activation, however, many are concerned that this procedure will slow down lines significantly when the iPhone 3G goes on sale. For users who wish to buy an unsubsidized iPhone, this does not appear to be an option. However, those users can sign up for the iPhone 3G and then cancel their contract after 30 days resulting in the usual (~$200) early termination fee, thus repaying AT&T for the built-in subsidy.


Finally, BoyGeniusReport publishes an internal AT&T memo regarding the iPhone 3G and confirms that AT&T will require in-store activation. It also describes that the customer can cancel their phone after 30 days and pay an early termination fee. Cancelation within 30 days, however, requires the customer to return the phone (and get a refund).

iPhone 3G Hands On, Notes, and Questions - Mac Rumors

Yeah fuck you Apple/ATNT

[stuartwood89]

That's just a load of shit. Why can't Apple just sell the phone by itself for any network/tariff? That's the main reason why the iPhone has failed so badly in the UK, most people (myself included) are happy to pay £300 for the handset and then use the phone on a pay as you go basis. Those who signed up to contracts will normally pay around £30 a month and the handset is usually free, along with shitloads of free minutes and texts included. We have more expensive phones in Europe than the iPhone, so what makes this so fucking special?

[Blackraven]

Originally Posted by stuartwood89

That's just a load of shit. Why can't Apple just sell the phone by itself for any network/tariff? That's the main reason why the iPhone has failed so badly in the UK, most people (myself included) are happy to pay £300 for the handset and then use the phone on a pay as you go basis. Those who signed up to contracts will normally pay around £30 a month and the handset is usually free, along with shitloads of free minutes and texts included. We have more expensive phones in Europe than the iPhone, so what makes this so fucking special?

Well, I do admit though that (as I mentioned earlier) about the phone not being available to all providers (applies to all countries)..............except in Singapore where it will be offered on Singtel, M1 and Starhub mobile (lucky bastards). In my country, it will only be announced on one carrier.

This is probably the reason why Iphone unlocks are so popular these days....................as well as the fact why I prefer a Nokia N95 8GB over the current Iphone.

In fact, brand loyalty to Nokia makes me believe that they'll release their first touchscreen flagship phone before the end of this decade. Once they have that, then Nokia will always be#1 in the handphone business (and that's something not even Samsung or Apple can ever change)

[ColorOfSakura]

Originally Posted by alexquick

i've had plenty of smartphones, but i generally only buy unlocked phones to begin with. the last time i actually even had a tmobile phone was like 6 years ago. and with tmobile you don't have to pay any extra for 'smartphone capabilities' or whatever (like the blackberry thing on att). i just pay $5.99 for unlimited tzones.

T-Zones is not the same as Internet Data Access. Trust me. I've been with T-Mobile for almost 7 years now, and my ex-boyfriend used to work in one of their Customer Service Centers. T-Zones are minimized internet searching functions and multimedia download access. Internet Data Access is fully functional internet access through a dedicated browser (currently in the US, only Smartphones are capable of doing this). Unlimited Internet Data Access plans with T-Mobile for normal Smartphones (Motorola Q, Palm Treo, Blackberry, etc.) are $49.99 a month. Sidekick users get a break and have a dedicated "Sidekick Data Plan" that only runs them $29.99 a month for unlimited data and text messaging.

AT&T is the exact same. Their data plans for normal Smartphones are $49.99 and then they have a dedicated "iPhone Data Plan" which currently runs $19.99 for unlimited data and 200 text messages or $39.99 for unlimited data and text messages. When the iPhone 3G comes out, both of those plans will go up $10, but in the end, it's going to be about the same amount you're going to pay with any other Smartphone on the market. Plus, the iPhone's new price point makes it CONSIDERABLY cheaper than any other Smartphone on the market.

also, just to point out the minimum ATT plan is $40 for the voice + $30 for data. so a minimum of 70 bucks a month which ain't that great a deal. granted you are getting 3G + GPS + iPhone but i'm still not convinced that's that great. and whoever said you don't need a contract, that's definitely wrong. in fact the loophole where you could but a phone without a contract and then activate it at home (thus supplying the world with unlocked iphones) is closed. if you buy one, you have to sign a 24M contract.

As a Sidekick user, I pay the EXACT same for my plan. I get a couple hundred more minutes (that I never use) and unlimited texting. So their plan is a bit more expensive, but again, the Sidekick is a special circumstance because it is a T-Mobile and Danger created phone, so it's automatically cheaper.

And also, I said "according to what I talked about with the AT&T rep" in regards to the contract. He wasn't sure. They had JUST announced the iPhone 3G that day, so he didn't know exactly, other than the fact that he'd heard they were renegotiating with Apple.



Blackraven - Nokia only holds the top slot because they offer all their phones for incredibly cheap, so everyone who buys cellphones pretty much starts or ends up with a Nokia at some point. If Motorola offered their handsets at the same pricing, they'd probably lead the market.

[Blackraven]

Originally Posted by ColorOfSakura

Blackraven - Nokia only holds the top slot because they offer all their phones for incredibly cheap, so everyone who buys cellphones pretty much starts or ends up with a Nokia at some point. If Motorola offered their handsets at the same pricing, they'd probably lead the market.

Well you do have a point somewhere there.

You're right in that they can sell phones for cheap prices and that their products cover all MARKET SEGMENTS (basically from the uber-rich up to those living in "sixth world" countries). It makes Samsung see them as a force to be reckoned with. More than that, they're already a household name for portable phones.

As for Motorola, as much as they've become a strong force in the business (ey, those iDEN handsets were kinda cool at some point).......but in the end, disappointing sales of ROKR units weren't helping the company. Figured how Samsung easily took their spot and now Motorola also runs the risk of being dethroned off their current spot by Apple (my golly).

Time for Motorola to fight back.

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Going back:

As mentioned, the Iphone has improved a lot in just a span of one year. People then weren't sure that Apple could do well in the phone business and get laughed at by their competitors as well as by the general public. Naturally, this newer updated version has improved a lot of flaws that have left a bad taste in the first version. Of course, there are still some flaws that need to be fixed (locked contracts, phone camera, etc.), it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth and has deterred others from buying it. Though, with price drops and more features, it's starting to become a force not to be underestimated.

Yet above all this, what truly defines the iphone and of course makes it carry a name of its own is of course it's Touchscreen. Yes the touchscreen. This is a touchscreen that not even HTC (owned by the Dopod crew of Taiwan) can replicate. Not to say that it was the first though (touchscreens have been around since the early 70s fyi) but it has revolutioned TOUCHSCREEN devices in general.....and of course carry them to a level that they can fit in the palm of your hand. Heck, that's why Samsung tries to compete by releasing as many touchscreen phones as possible starting Q3 2008..........and Nokia too has released its "Iphone-like" smartphone prototype with touchscreen as well (to serve as it's flagship model for a year 2009 release). I'm definitely replacing my 6800 series phone once the Nokia touchscreen phone releases.

But that's basically it, the touchscreen trend started by the Iphone is making waves in the industry. Now that is fact unquestionable in all aspects.

Thus, EVERYONE can expect more and more touchscreen devices in the future.

[alexquick]

I understand that it's not the same, but T-zones works just fine for everything i've tried so far.

I use Opera Mini on my Sony K850i and Opera Mobile on my Nokia E61 and trust me, I can view any web page fine. And I've used numerous phones as modems.. no trouble with any of them. Other than the slow ass speed of EDGE but generally I don't have a problem with EDGE when using Opera mini. I believe the Tmo internet plan might be required for tethering if you have a tmobile phone, but when using an unlocked phone you definitely don't need it. maybe it's a loophole, but it's a hell of a big loophole.

Also apparently Vodafone Italy will be selling pre-paid iPhones (no contracts) so there will be more unlocked 3G iphones then I thought.. although they're going to cost 499 euro for an 8 gig.

[Keith]

This is for people who can't seem to understand

[dieKatze88]

Originally Posted by Keith

This is for people who can't seem to understand

What a fantastic chart that makes things easy for stupid people.

[infamous360]

I am planning on getting the 3G iphone to replace my current iphone... do I still get it for $200?

[stuartwood89]

I heard that this iPhone is available for PAYG over here, but I may be wrong.

[WiLLiSTER]

Unsubsidized iPhone 3G priced at ?499/?569 in Europe - Engadget

Interesting. I'd never pay that much though :P

[dieKatze88]

Originally Posted by infamous360

I am planning on getting the 3G iphone to replace my current iphone... do I still get it for $200?

with a contract. sure.

[infamous360]

Originally Posted by dieKatze88

with a contract. sure.

Yeah I was planning on using it lol... I just have to have 3g and gps =]

looks like I have a ipod touch now xD