The Linux Thread!

stuartwood89 · 02-20-2008, 08:01 AM

The Linux Thread!

Not too sure what response I'll get for this, but well...

Discuss Linux here, even if you don't like it, it'll be nice to get some views and experiences (good and bad).

Excel-2008 · 02-20-2008, 08:10 AM

Am I the only one here who can't get smooth scrolling in anything Linux? Maybe it's because I have an ATI card, but scrolling in Firefox is very slow and stuttery (for lack of a better word).

stuartwood89 · 02-20-2008, 08:20 AM

I scroll just fine, which version of Firefox are you using?

EDIT: Does it go slow if you use the scrollwheel or when you drag the scrollbars as well?

Excel-2008 · 02-20-2008, 09:30 AM

I have 7.10 on the laptop and I can scroll by running my finger down the right edge of the touch pad.

stuartwood89 · 02-20-2008, 10:40 AM

Try dragging with the scroll bars on the right side of the screen. If it still goes slow, then I'm out of ideas for now.

Have you tried the Ubuntu Forums?

visinin · 02-21-2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Excel-2008

I have an ATI card

this is going to sound really mean but having an ATI card will fuck up your Linux experience. ATI are pretty terrible about maintaining their official Linux driver, nvidia are far more receptive (and their cards work wonderfully as a result).

on the subject of smooth scrolling, there's a preference in firefox that enables it (it's under "advanced"). beyond that, are there any applications in specific that don't let you scroll smoothly?

Excel-2008 · 02-21-2008, 06:59 AM

I realized that a long time ago too little, too late. I haven't actually booted it up for a while but at least it still works enough that I haven't thought about removing it yet.

If Michael Dell uses Ubuntu on his own Dell Inspiron (which is what I have), how is it that he doesn't appear to have any of these problems?

*phuzion* · 02-21-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Excel-2008

I realized that a long time ago too little, too late. I haven't actually booted it up for a while but at least it still works enough that I haven't thought about removing it yet.

If Michael Dell uses Ubuntu on his own Dell Inspiron (which is what I have), how is it that he doesn't appear to have any of these problems?

Because I guarantee you he has an entire fucking team of people to keep his computer running at 3000% above spec. Keep in mind, this is fucking Michael Dell you're talking about.

Anyways, Linux user here (recently switched, haven't found a real reason to switch back to Windows yet). Ubuntu 7.10 is my flavor of choice, and I'm loving it so far. Everything seems to be a lot more stable, crashes are handled a lot better than in Windows, and I think that Ubuntu has a much more efficient memory addressing system than any Microsoft OS ever did.

All I gotta do now is get a VNC solution set up, and I'll be the happiest boy in the world.

stuartwood89 · 02-22-2008, 05:18 AM

Well I have Stepmania working in Ubuntu now (one of the only programs that have a Linux version

) so I already am happy. But I need to get Photoshop etc working in it.

**dieKatze88** · 02-22-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ROCKET PUBES

this is going to sound really mean but having an ATI card will fuck up your Linux experience. ATI are pretty terrible about maintaining their official Linux driver, nvidia are far more receptive (and their cards work wonderfully as a result).

on the subject of smooth scrolling, there's a preference in firefox that enables it (it's under "advanced"). beyond that, are there any applications in specific that don't let you scroll smoothly?

Not counting kernel bugs... of course

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Originally Posted by phuzion

Because I guarantee you he has an entire fucking team of people to keep his computer running at 3000% above spec. Keep in mind, this is fucking Michael Dell you're talking about.

Anyways, Linux user here (recently switched, haven't found a real reason to switch back to Windows yet). Ubuntu 7.10 is my flavor of choice, and I'm loving it so far. Everything seems to be a lot more stable, crashes are handled a lot better than in Windows, and I think that Ubuntu has a much more efficient memory addressing system than any Microsoft OS ever did.

All I gotta do now is get a VNC solution set up, and I'll be the happiest boy in the world.

Use the one built into gnome. all others Ive seen unlock your local screen. Someone over at Xorg needs to come up with a solution for a remote plugin system, so I could continue to use RDP if I move back to linux again..

visinin · 02-24-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dieKatze88

Not counting kernel bugs... of course

It's mostly the driver. The kernel itself is refreshingly bug-free unless you start turning on the experimental stuff (the realtime patches, tickless kernel, stuff specifically marked "this is experimental and if you don't know what it is you should leave it off," etc).

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Originally Posted by dieKatze88

Use the one built into gnome. all others Ive seen unlock your local screen. Someone over at Xorg needs to come up with a solution for a remote plugin system, so I could continue to use RDP if I move back to linux again..

It's called XDMCP. Only problem is that it's not designed with a whole lot of security in mind, so you'd need to look into SSH forwarding. FreeNX also looks interesting, though I haven't had a chance to play with it yet.

**dieKatze88** · 02-25-2008, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by visinin

It's mostly the driver. The kernel itself is refreshingly bug-free unless you start turning on the experimental stuff (the realtime patches, tickless kernel, stuff specifically marked "this is experimental and if you don't know what it is you should leave it off," etc).

It's called XDMCP. Only problem is that it's not designed with a whole lot of security in mind, so you'd need to look into SSH forwarding. FreeNX also looks interesting, though I haven't had a chance to play with it yet.

Considering that the Nvidia driver opens a critical vulnerability in the SMD driver, I'm going to say its a combination of the two.

My god security, Look, this is the internet. the Feds are looking at you and if you haven't gotten through this yet you either need to stop looking at child porn or get over it. I'm not saying we should all turn off our firewalls and antivirus programs, but we can stop being hyper paranoid. The people who want to look are going to. But yeah, SSH Forwarding is a good way to add security to this.

I want xrdp to be done, so I can install it on a box again.

stuartwood89 · 02-25-2008, 02:14 PM

OK, so what do you guys reckon is the best torrent client for Linux? And furthermore, how the hell do you install these things?

visinin · 02-25-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dieKatze88

Considering that the Nvidia driver opens a critical vulnerability in the SMD driver, I'm going to say its a combination of the two.

I'm curious as to where you found that, because the only nvidia security vulnerability I can find is from 2006 and neither me nor any of my coworkers know what an SMD driver is. I'm actually genuinely curious, because I'm running the nvidia driver on both my desktop and laptop.

**dieKatze88** · 02-25-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by visinin

I'm curious as to where you found that, because the only nvidia security vulnerability I can find is from 2006 and neither me nor any of my coworkers know what an SMD driver is. I'm actually genuinely curious, because I'm running the nvidia driver on both my desktop and laptop.

Its actually the driver for multiple processors, which is funny that its not called "SMP" because everywhere Ive heard about it its called the "SMD" driver, but the Internet is stupid and these things do happen

I dont know if they finally closed this bug, but it was present in like 40 versions in a row. So who knows.