Now seriously considering the Mac Pro...

WiLLiSTER · 08-23-2006, 12:22 AM

http://parallelsvirtualization.blogs...are-is-in.html

There will no longer be a reason for me to have my current mac or either of my two pc's. The Mac Pro is uber sexy too. The price isn't half bad either (for soemthing made by apple, lol.)

$4748
Specifications:
Two 3GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
1GB (2 x 512MB)
500GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
500GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
2 x NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB
Apple Cinema Display (20" flat panel)
One 16x SuperDrive
Apple Keyboard and Mighty Mouse - U.S. English
Mac OS X - U.S. English

(Yes, I want 1tb of storage.)

***red shoe paul*** · 08-23-2006, 07:17 AM

That will actually boot Windows on your mac perfectly. Damn, get that and your sure as hell lucky

xybur · 08-23-2006, 09:37 AM

1 gig of ram?

weak dude, weak.

Nomi · 08-23-2006, 11:22 AM

If I was getting the Pro I would try very hard to give it as much RAM as possible. 1GB is a bit underwhelming for a machine like that.

Testament · 08-23-2006, 12:02 PM

It's almost $5000.

I'm going to be sick.

WiLLiSTER · 08-23-2006, 12:38 PM

Well, they wanted like another $200 for another gig of ram, so I figured I could just buy another stick of ram and put it in myself. I've decided I'm going to get it, though not for a few months... Need to get some extra money.

EDIT: Yea... I'm not spending that much on ram...

Nomi · 08-23-2006, 01:34 PM

Retard, don't have Apple install the upgrades. It's way cheaper to get one good base stick and then fill the other slot(s) yourself. Don't get 2x512; get 1x1GB

Also, why do you need a computer that insane?

WiLLiSTER · 08-23-2006, 02:05 PM

Well, it comes with the 2 sticks, which I'm fine with. I've never really noticed a difference between using one stick and two. Also, it's not like I have the choice when building it to say "Hey, don't give me any ram. It's cheaper to get it myself

" So, if it supports up to 16gb, there's obviously plenty of room to throw in more sticks.

And I don't really NEED a computer that insane, I just want one. It's also gong to replace my current 3 computers, lol.

Nomi · 08-23-2006, 03:43 PM

Not gonna lie, probably the most retarded thing I've ever heard. As someone with no money to throw around, you make me a little ill.

Just as a note, Apple is a little stiff about RAM slots. I don't know the specifics of the Pro, but the iMacs, etc. usually only have 2 slots so I'd make sure you're okay with 2x512 as a max if it only has 2 slots. I'd sure as hell hope the Pro has more, but I'm just saying, I know a lot of their machines cap out at 2 slots.

UKN · 08-23-2006, 05:06 PM

Wow you really don't know much about computers, do you?

First off, what in the hell will you ever need 1TB worth of space for? In a year of owning a computer with 350 gigs, I have filled up all of about 120. That includes a ton of video game ISO's, over 40 gigs of music and alot of Adobe projects. There's a big difference between buying a good computer, and wasting money.

Also, what are you using this computer for? For christ's sake, unless you are a hardcore 3-D graphics designer, you won't need all this shit. By the time a game comes out that will even require any of this, you could buy the system for $3,000 less. Honestly you are a moron for wanting to splurge all this money on brand new technology, where as you can be smart and buy it later on down the road when it is actually needed and has become the standard.

Also, two sticks is indeed better than one, because two sticks can spread tasks and memory, as well as channeling together to make everything faster.

**dieKatze88** · 08-23-2006, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UKN

Wow you really don't know much about computers, do you?

First off, what in the hell will you ever need 1TB worth of space for? In a year of owning a computer with 350 gigs, I have filled up all of about 120. That includes a ton of video game ISO's, over 40 gigs of music and alot of Adobe projects. There's a big difference between buying a good computer, and wasting money.

Also, what are you using this computer for? For christ's sake, unless you are a hardcore 3-D graphics designer, you won't need all this shit. By the time a game comes out that will even require any of this, you could buy the system for $3,000 less. Honestly you are a moron for wanting to splurge all this money on brand new technology, where as you can be smart and buy it later on down the road when it is actually needed and has become the standard.

Also, two sticks is indeed better than one, because two sticks can spread tasks and memory, as well as channeling together to make everything faster.

The explanation of how 2 sticks make things faster is wrong. the correct term is "Dual Channel" and its actually a 20 year old technology from the 486 age when the same problem was huge, RAM not being fast enough to keep up with the processor's speed and FSB. It basicaly means that two IDENTICAL sticks of memory will take turns, like this:
Stick 1 - Refresh
Stick 2 - CPU Address
Stick 1 - CPU Address
Stick 2 - Refresh

Repeat until computer is turned off, typicaly 400 times a second.

The consept doubles the throughput of the memory, while keeping costs down (Because faster memory by 2x typicaly costs 3x the moneys) however the sticks must be identical. If you have 2 identical sticks, and 2 non identical sticks in the same machine, you lose the bonus. Buy sticks in 2 packs on newegg.

***red shoe paul*** · 08-23-2006, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UKN

First off, what in the hell will you ever need 1TB worth of space for? In a year of owning a computer with 350 gigs, I have filled up all of about 120. That includes a ton of video game ISO's, over 40 gigs of music and alot of Adobe projects. There's a big difference between buying a good computer, and wasting money.

I can agree to this 100%

It's really not worth the TB. 200 - 300 gigs is good enough, you'll never EVER use anymore of it.

WiLLiSTER · 08-23-2006, 08:50 PM

Really? Cuz I'm pushing 500+ already. And another 500 will be easy to fill... And I'm the only one using this. I'm probably going to be moving after this school year and a friend of mine will probably use it also.

In my current mac alone, I have a 20gb, 250gb, and an external 250gb. They have 2gb, 3gb, and 10gb left... And then I've got the two pcs, both of which have different things on them, both with 20gb and 160gb hard drives in them... So yes, I need 1TB.

UKN: Don't question my knowledge of computers. Because you haven't filled 350gbs in a year doesn't mean someone else can't. I plan on using this thing for games, video editing, photoshop, 3d modeling, and several other things. Yes, I have a tendency to spend a little more than I should on things, but I really don't care. It can be made back, plus if it lasts as long as I see it lasting, it's going to be worth it.

UKN · 08-23-2006, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti_gilbert

3d modeling.

Seriously, if you are using Maya or even 3DS MAX or Lightwave, you will be using alot of fucking space and stuff. Honestly, you do need more RAM though. The computer is fine as it is now, but you need more RAM because it'll obviously make rendering so much easier. I would say three or four gigs would be great, two if you aren't so hardcore into it.

Also, I'm sure if you managed better you could be under 250 gigs. just because you have alot of space doesn't mean you can let unneeded things pile up in your computer. I doubt you have 500 gigs worth of stuff that you absolutely need.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieKatze88

The explanation of how 2 sticks make things faster is wrong. the correct term is "Dual Channel" and its actually a 20 year old technology from the 486 age when the same problem was huge, RAM not being fast enough to keep up with the processor's speed and FSB. It basicaly means that two IDENTICAL sticks of memory will take turns, like this:
Stick 1 - Refresh
Stick 2 - CPU Address
Stick 1 - CPU Address
Stick 2 - Refresh

Repeat until computer is turned off, typicaly 400 times a second.

The consept doubles the throughput of the memory, while keeping costs down (Because faster memory by 2x typicaly costs 3x the moneys) however the sticks must be identical. If you have 2 identical sticks, and 2 non identical sticks in the same machine, you lose the bonus. Buy sticks in 2 packs on newegg.

Hi, your name means the cat 88.

Nomi · 08-23-2006, 09:41 PM

I won't join in the (logical) debate about you not needing this much power again, but one thing. For storage, do you not fucking burn discs? Haha. If you have a DVD burner, why the hell would you EVER need more than 300 gigs? Burn your movies and other entertainment for love's sake, keep it in a CD wallet. It's honestly more convenient in my opinion. Blank DVDs are cheap if you buy them on sale- I got 200 for $38 last year.