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Old 05-04-2007, 11:51 AM   #1
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I've been wondering this.

Someone who is skilled enough at IIDX to get AAAs, and skilled enough at DDR to get AAAs, is it easier to get AAAs on IIDX or DDR? IIDX, IIRC, is a 95% Just great rate for a AAA, which would be like a AA on DDR, but the timing is much tighter. DDR is all perfects for a AAA, but timing is looser. One involves feet and the other fingers, so would it be easier to AAA IIDX stuff or DDR stuff?
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Old 05-04-2007, 12:11 PM   #2
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You need 89.9% to get a AAA, in IIDX.

The timing is so much looser in DDR for AAAs that it's really hard to compare the two.
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Old 05-04-2007, 12:20 PM   #3
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The IIDX AAA cutoff is actually 88.88(inf)% EX points, or 8/9 precisely.

It depends. For "advanced" players, though, it's probably easier to AAA easy songs more consistently in IIDX (since you're not penalized for a single-note screwup) but it's really easy for advanced DDR players to AAA things too.

I guess, in the end, it depends if you're talking about AAA'ing 3's or if you're talking about AAA'ing the hardest songs in the game.
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Old 05-04-2007, 04:30 PM   #4
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You need 89.9% to get a AAA, in IIDX.
not to mention, your score must be 189000 or higher to have that AAA grade.
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Old 05-04-2007, 04:32 PM   #5
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In IIDX? Score doesn't affect your letter grade.

Also, "your."
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Old 05-04-2007, 04:35 PM   #6
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fixed the "you're" error. sorry about that. silly me

but hey. i always noticed that on IIDX's grading system everytime i'm trying to AAA its songs.
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Old 05-04-2007, 04:44 PM   #7
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Scores on IIDX differ from song to song. An AAA on DDR is almost always about 9,000,000 points. ... or is that AA? Hmm... Oh well.

I find it easier to AAA easier songs on IIDX as since there are less notes, I can concentrate more on timing than hitting notes.
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Old 05-04-2007, 04:52 PM   #8
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Scores on IIDX differ from song to song. An AAA on DDR is almost always about 9,000,000 points
this would be true if all songs in DDR were 9 footers.
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Old 05-04-2007, 04:57 PM   #9
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fixed the "you're" error. sorry about that. silly me
No need to be sorry. I'm just abnormally bothered by missing or misused apostrophes.
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:31 PM   #10
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not to mention, your score must be 189000 or higher to have that AAA grade.
Uh, no?

You get an AAA if your EX score ([JGreats * 2] + [Greats]) is >= 8/9 of the possible EX points for the song. Money score has nothing to do with it. I've gotten a 181,000-point AAA before.
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Old 05-05-2007, 01:57 AM   #11
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this would be true if all songs in DDR were 9 footers.
and if you were playing DDREX.

getting AAAs on either game requires skill and concentration, something i have very little of. DDR and IIDX AAAs are both hard to attain in their own ways. both games function differently and require you to do different things so i dont think u can really compare the two.
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Old 05-05-2007, 02:29 AM   #12
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To reiterate (rmz, edit my post if I'm wrong):

DDR
AAA = full Perfect combo (or if you are playing a Non-Stop/Oni, full Marvelous combo)
Score (pre-SuperNOVA) = difficulty * 10,000,000

IIDX
EX Score = 2 * total number of notes.
JGreat (flashing red "Great") = 2 points
Great (yellow "Great") = 1 point. All other notes = 0 points.
AAA = at least 8/9 (or 88.88~%) of the total EX Score.
AA = between 7/9 (or 77.77~%) and 8/9 of the total EX Score.
A = between 6/9 and 7/9 of the total EX Score.
Non-expert course points = MAXIMUM of 200,000 per song no matter what song.

Meaning, in order to get a AAA, it's basically guaranteed that your Non-expert course points will always be at least high 180,000s.
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Old 05-05-2007, 02:33 AM   #13
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Meaning, in order to get a AAA, it's basically guaranteed that your Non-expert course points will always be at least high 180,000s.
Well, for the most part, it's a definate bet when the money score is 189,000+ (from full combo'ing, making very very few errors)


190,000+, then there's no way you could of received a AA.
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THATS why AAA's seem to elude me. the highest ive ever gotten on a song is 186000. (not counting a light7 song i AAA'ed once)

i always end up with 176 to 181000, i guess i need to practice my accuracy a little more. not full comboing doesnt help me either...
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Old 05-05-2007, 04:59 AM   #15
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on-topic, DDR is a lot easier for me for some reason or another. largely the size of the timing window and the fact that everything isn't quite as offsync (in general) as it is between IIDX styles.
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