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Old 07-14-2006, 09:08 AM   #1
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I was watching X-play the other day, and Adam did a review on the U.S. version of Beatmania. I was expecting some bad reviews such as the sharp learning curve making it a game not for everybody, and maybe the taste of music Americans like and such since the genre of music was targeted mainly for Japanese...but I didn't expect to be bothered by it. I was wondering if anyone else saw it and felt like Sessler needed to eat shit and die

Anyways, a summary of what I remember from his review, the video footage of the review was very mocking to the game. They had some moron just hitting random buttons and scratching away not even playing the game correctly, and they even went as far as to make some stupid character called "Scratch" to insult the controller. Sessler kept babbling about how awful the genre of music that was included in the game, and repeatedly kept going back to the "Toxic" song to bring down the game. He even made fun of the song, Sana's "La Bossa Nova De Sana" which was a classic that goes back all the way to the very first Beatmania game back in "97. After dissing the playing mechanics, saying it's a rip off of the 'oh so greatly appraised' "Guitar Heroes", that it "wasn't clear what audience this game was aiming for", that whoever plays this game would be "some lonely nerdy gamer with no social life" or something like that, I just remember it pissed me off so bad He was right about one thing: "It's not easy!" (and it showed the fail screen) Sessler's end results: "A Lame 2 stars out of 5"..and Sessler and Webb said that they don't think "there's ever going to be a game that can even compare to "Guitar Heroes"!


Now, my counter arguements...first off, if you're going to bring down a game, you'd better do your homework first. If Sessler wasn't a sorry ass video game reviewer, he would have known Beatmania is the "GODFATHER" of all music simulation games. How can he even say Beatmania is a rip-off of anything? If it wasn't for Beatmania, there wouldn't be Bemani games (D.D.R., Pop n' Music, Guitar Freaks, Drummania, etc.); no Bemani games, then no generic variations ( like Frequency, Amplitude, Guitar Heroes). It's like saying "Tony Jaa is better than Jackie Chan". Jackie Chan is old school and has been doing movies back in the 70's; Tony Jaa is new school and just starting...you can't compare the 2 because they are from 2 different generations, but you can't totally diss the old school because that's where the roots branch from to form the new school stuff; and you gotta pay the respects! (Actually, you better pay your respects!)

I have to give it though, "Guitar Heroes" is a good game, even though rock music isn't my thing, I still liked playing it for the challenge; but if it wasn't for "Guitar Freaks", there probably wouldn't be any Guitar Heroes. Red Octane was the group that made the generic brand Konami controllers for D.D.R. and Guitar Freaks, and Harmonix made Frequency back in 2001, so it's already certain who's superior over the other.

The whole purpose of the U.S. release of Beatmania is to get everyone who hasn't played but wants to play it into the Beatmania scene, and get caught up with all the good people. (that and to give everyone a chance to try out 14 key ) Beatmania is a classic Japanese arcade simulator , and was aimed to give America a chance to try the arcade classic as well as get people into IIDX....that and because the steep learning curve, it's better to learn how to play at home for free instead of wasting your quarters/tokens/dollars away at the arcade. (if you have one at your arcade)

Back to the arguement, they didn't give it any effort to even try and play the game, nor did they even have any footage or a segment on the BeatmaniaIIDX part of the game, where all the better songs are. If they couldn't play it, I'm pretty sure they could have found somebody in Cali who was good, or at least a video from YouTube or something, and make it seem interesting to the viewers watching the review.

And about attacking the players of Beatmania, saying we have no life was uncalled for. I play Beatmania because it's challenging despite the steep learning curve. I've been playing it ever since "97 when my cousin brought home Beatmania, 2nd mix and 3rd mix for the PS1 from the Philippines (I'm Filipino btw), and then went all the way to this day to be playing IIDX 7-keys. Since I'm going to college, I have no time for online games or RPG's, and I'm sick of FPS's (although they're fun, but they make too many); I find Beatmania/Beatmania IIDX a perfect game for people who don't have time to sit around all day with an RPG, and just want to have a short 5-10 minutes of fun and then get to some homework...and then play Beatmania IIDX again

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Old 07-14-2006, 09:30 AM   #2
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He made that review months ago, you missed the boat on this one, and his opinions were debated in the Beatmania US thread.

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True, I remember reading peoples' opinions on this on 6.0, but it's still a real annoyance thinking about it.

It's okay though. While he thinks he may be all that, at least all the people who care about beatmania know he's a huge moron.
 

Old 07-14-2006, 09:58 AM   #4
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Even I was a bit upset at X-play's review on beatmania. Silly Americans. I guess he didn't have the time to get to another mode quickly
 

Old 07-14-2006, 10:19 AM   #5
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oops! sorry guys, didn't mean to spark another thread on this topic, but I hope it's still open for discussion. If not, feel free to lock this thread up...but I'm glad to hear everyone feels me on this.
 

Old 07-14-2006, 10:44 AM   #6
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Well I don't know about anyone else but doesnt it seem like good ole Adam sessler would be the "nerd with no social life" that would have the time to get good at it. After all he "reviews" games all the time and nothing else. It often goes without saying that a game like this gets horrid reviews from people like sessler whos favorite game is SLy cooper, i shouldn't have to say anything after that comment right there. On the other hand, good video game reviewers like Game Informer will usually give a good honest opinion, and more of a real review than a review from one of those kids who stand around at arcades saying the kid getting AAA's on DDR has no life, just because they can't do it. Game Informer gave Beatmania an 8.5, going off the gameplay instead of its song selection. Also here http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928431.asp is a list of other reviews it got proving that X-Play loves to go against the mold with there reviews.

So we give X-play a brian peppers 1 out of 5.
 

Old 07-14-2006, 10:51 AM   #7
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lol xplay. its one of those 'video games wit attitude' kind of things. no shit they didn't like beatmania. it makes your dick smaller. and bmus's songlist was easy to make fun of, not to mention the hardcore dj theme. quirky japanese theme would have worked so much better (straight port of 10th ftw).

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Old 07-14-2006, 11:06 AM   #8
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It just bothered me because Beatmania didn't get the respect that it should have, and Sessler was a dick about it calling it unoriginal when it's the O.G. of music simulators. but yeah, I guess it was nothing to worry about
 

Old 07-14-2006, 11:40 AM   #9
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Really, Sessler did us a favor. The kind of people who listen to the things he says are excatly the kinds of people we don't need playing beatmania.
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Uh, last I checked, "we" need everyone we possibly can to play Beatmania.
 

Old 07-14-2006, 12:10 PM   #11
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Yeah, there's a point there: the more people playing, the better.

But god damn, the less X-Play fanboys/fangirls (can a review show HAVE obsessive fans?) posting here, the better.
 

Old 07-14-2006, 12:11 PM   #12
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i never saw the review, but IMO, X-play sucks at reviewing games, period. alot of the games i had liked/loved they gave a crappy rating, but turned around and said some piece of steaming crap game was the ultimate thing. when i heard that BMUS was a "rip-off of guitar heroes" i scoffed and said "well red octane ripped off DDR by making ITG so who's the better company?" and on top of that, if it wasn't for Beatmania there would be no music sim game out there! how DARE they talk trash about the grandaddy of all music games!? eh, i beat the dead horse i know, but i needed to vent frustration lol.
 

Old 07-14-2006, 01:43 PM   #13
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I can't believe people still watch X-Play, let alone consider it any sort of review show to be taken seriously. The entire show is a joke, get over it.
 

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Well I don't know about anyone else but doesnt it seem like good ole Adam sessler would be the "nerd with no social life" that would have the time to get good at it. After all he "reviews" games all the time and nothing else. It often goes without saying that a game like this gets horrid reviews from people like sessler whos favorite game is SLy cooper, i shouldn't have to say anything after that comment right there. On the other hand, good video game reviewers like Game Informer will usually give a good honest opinion, and more of a real review than a review from one of those kids who stand around at arcades saying the kid getting AAA's on DDR has no life, just because they can't do it. Game Informer gave Beatmania an 8.5, going off the gameplay instead of its song selection. Also here http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928431.asp is a list of other reviews it got proving that X-Play loves to go against the mold with there reviews.

So we give X-play a brian peppers 1 out of 5.
Sly Cooper is a good game

Your disagreement means I shouldn't have to say anything else, obviously

For the record, I like X-Play
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