Beatmania Frustrations

[Exagon]

Originally Posted by squeethehobo

5. 'playing variety' isn't going to help with first passes on hard 12*s. That'll take a ton of practice on that one song. this is for general improvement. The point is to not get stuck. Its the same reason as playing with random.

Lol I played OML[A] around 50 times waiting for the right random, 20 times before getting my first pass, and then another 30 trying to get a pass on vid. No luck on vidding a pass yet.

[afex.racer_X]

Originally Posted by Exagon

Lol I played OML[A] around 50 times waiting for the right random, 20 times before getting my first pass, and then another 30 trying to get a pass on vid. No luck on vidding a pass yet.

Exactly.

Random gives you all the variety you need in a song. All the harder 12*s that I managed to pass, have at least 2-3 20 consecutive play runs on them. Quell, Nageki, Mei, etc etc.

51. Decreasing HS and increasing SUD+ doesn't help with reading the notes. HS and SUD+ are essentially the same exact thing. SUD+ is used to give you the feel of using a different speed than you can select, eg. HS 3 with a little SUD+ would be close to HS 3.2.

96. Why you would turn on Hard for a song you can't pass is beyond me. The only time I would agree with this, is if the song you can't pass has an ending that drops you down to the 70% range. If you can manage the rest of the song with 90-100% then sure, throw Hard on to see if you can make it past the ending. If you can't even make it half way through the song with a gauge about 10%, then Hard is pointless.

[m335h73r of PBJ]

The only time I disagree with the hard modifier is Spiral Galaxy [b].

I can hard clear it rather well, but I will never normal clear it.

[NTV]

Originally Posted by Blacksgiving

The only time I disagree with the hard modifier is Spiral Galaxy [b].

I can hard clear it rather well, but I will never normal clear it.

That's the problem I have on Scorpion Fire another I've never normal cleared it because the ending but I know if I use hard I might clear it.

Originally Posted by Ai Takahashi

You know, when you phrase it like that, it sounds like I'm the special kid of the class. "He takes a little longer to learn." But no, I understand what you mean. Since I came home for Winter break, I've been playing for hours on end.

What I meant is since I used to play the game 8 to 10 hours a day (that lasted about a year probably more I really don't remember) that's why I can play 12s. I played too much.

[m335h73r of PBJ]

Originally Posted by NTV

That's the problem I have on Scorpion Fire another I've never normal cleared it because the ending but I know if I use hard I might clear it.

Good fucking luck.

[NTV]

Originally Posted by Blacksgiving

Good fucking luck.

I will only try it on hard after the normal clear

[afex.racer_X]

Only way I was able to clear Scropion Fire [a] was on Hard.. only twice. Still can't do it on normal.

[TOFU!!]

So wait, I'm confused. I should be playing 11s/12s with Random? Most of the 11s I've cleared I'm fairly certain I couldn't do without a great Random, which is why I almost always play without it. Actually, the only 11 I know I've cleared with Random was Mint [a], and I only did it once.

[m335h73r of PBJ]

random is strange.

You're either gonna get something just like the original chart.

Something absolutely piss easy compared to the original.

or dear jesus D':

[TOFU!!]

Haha! When I play on random I always seem to get really funky chords and things, the kind that aren't even fun to play. And I feel like if you clear something on Random, it's not completely legit? Because it's easier? I dunno.

[NTV]

Originally Posted by TOFU!!

I feel like if you clear something on Random, it's not completely legit? Because it's easier? I dunno.

Sometimes it's a lot harder than the normal chart. I used to play a lot with random but I don't anymore. I mostly play for fun now, I feel like my right arm is what doesn't let me get better at the game

[afex.racer_X]

I tend to try and clear a song without random first. But if the pattern is complete BS and I know I'm not going to pass it for a very long time, I'll use random for the clear. I don't think it's "cheating", I mean, I'm still passing the song and all. It's not like I have easy or autoscratch on.

[NTV]

Originally Posted by afex.racer_X

I tend to try and clear a song without random first. But if the pattern is complete BS and I know I'm not going to pass it for a very long time, I'll use random for the clear. I don't think it's "cheating", I mean, I'm still passing the song and all. It's not like I have easy or autoscratch on.

I stopped playing on random when I changed from a USKOC to the DAO PEE. Since the TT is a little farther away and I kept my original playstyle it got a little harder to press the first key and scratch at the same time so I did it to get used to that and I have been playing that way. I actually like to play on random sometimes makes a song that you have played many many times interesting in a way.

[Oni140]

Sometimes, there really is no way of passing a song except by going it over and over again; slowing it down in Practice has helped with me, maybe it'll help some of the other people here, too. :P

Sometimes playing on Hard is good, too, since it challenges you to...not fail.

[TOFU!!]

I use random a lot on easier stuff, to make it more interesting. I'll have to try it out on some 11s/12s and see how it goes. From what you guys have said, I shouldn't let one bad chart deter me huh? Lol.


But anyway, back on topic. The most frustrating thing for me is playing a song one day and getting +193 and the next day getting -150 on that same song/chart. When I get a new high score on something it takes me roughly a month to beat it again, especially if I've already played it a bunch. Quite discouraging, really.