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m335h73r of PBJ · 09-14-2009, 07:53 PM

I was totally right on that last part.

Joshuaoftroy · 09-14-2009, 08:02 PM

no I seed for days thanks. But they don't have info on usb adapters and lag. unfortunately. but hey thanks for all your great info. You are the best admin ever, and full of knowledge

m335h73r of PBJ · 09-14-2009, 08:35 PM

alright so who really would like help on this damn game, and not wanna talk semantics about what is or isn't legal.

miroku888 · 10-07-2009, 06:07 PM

I have a question: I am currently preparing to buy a US PS2 from my local gamestop, and I was wondering what the best places to find the US Beatmania and WORKING controllers.

So far, I've only played Beatmania on MAME and I really want to use a real controller for a change.

m335h73r of PBJ · 10-07-2009, 06:16 PM

The best place to find a KOC of any variety would really to place a WTB thread in the marketplace here or some other bemani site.

Beatmania US (the actual game) is incredibly common you should have no problem finding it used in a GameStop for around 10 bucks.

Dara-G. · 10-07-2009, 10:42 PM

if you want i have a us koc for sale pm me if your interested.

ColorOfSakura · 10-11-2009, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miroku888

I have a question: I am currently preparing to buy a US PS2 from my local gamestop, and I was wondering what the best places to find the US Beatmania and WORKING controllers.

So far, I've only played Beatmania on MAME and I really want to use a real controller for a change.

Beatmania US is available at most GameStops for $9.99 used. As for the controller, check the Marketplace forum here on Bemanistyle (link here: Trading & Marketplace - Bemanistyle [dot] com Forums), eBay, or Amazon

You should be able to find a controller for around $30ish bucks, if you get the US one (which is, frankly, a much better controller than the Japanese one).

Deca · 10-11-2009, 02:05 PM

Oh my god seriously the uskoc is by no means better, why do so many people seem to think it is. The buttons are just harder to press and travel further (thereby making it nigh impossible to time worth a damn if you're used to a jkoc. Seriously I don't get timing issues going from my controller to arcade but I'll B songs I normally AAA on a uskoc.)

Everyone I know that plays seriously has had them basically self destruct internally under normal use, all of the aligning tabs breaking off of the keys.

The keys on the jkoc are more prone to sticking, sure, but if you just take care of the damn thing, keep it clean, wash your hands before playing if you need to, there should be no real issues at all. It took 5 years for my controller to develop any sticking issues and even then they were easily remedied by adding a bit more cardboard to the keys.

The turntable on my jkoc has never been modded in any way and works amazingly. Every uskoc I've used has had horrible stiff turntables, even after modding.

The uskoc footprint also blows, the placement of the feet due to the curved side makes them much less effective in keeping the controller from shifting as you use it, a problem I've never experienced with the jkoc. Furthermore, if you play with the controller in your lap it's going to be a lot less convenient trying to rest the uskoc on your legs, also due to the curved side.

Ultimately, the uskoc just FEELS cheap as hell. The jkoc has a much more solid and professional feel to it, down to even the cord. There is nothing superior about the uskoc aside from the fact that it is significantly less expensive.

bLOOdSAW · 10-11-2009, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deca

Oh my god seriously the uskoc is by no means better, why do so many people seem to think it is. The buttons are just harder to press and travel further (thereby making it nigh impossible to time worth a damn if you're used to a jkoc. Seriously I don't get timing issues going from my controller to arcade but I'll B songs I normally AAA on a uskoc.)

Everyone I know that plays seriously has had them basically self destruct internally under normal use, all of the aligning tabs breaking off of the keys.

The keys on the jkoc are more prone to sticking, sure, but if you just take care of the damn thing, keep it clean, wash your hands before playing if you need to, there should be no real issues at all. It took 5 years for my controller to develop any sticking issues and even then they were easily remedied by adding a bit more cardboard to the keys.

The turntable on my jkoc has never been modded in any way and works amazingly. Every uskoc I've used has had horrible stiff turntables, even after modding.

The uskoc footprint also blows, the placement of the feet due to the curved side makes them much less effective in keeping the controller from shifting as you use it, a problem I've never experienced with the jkoc. Furthermore, if you play with the controller in your lap it's going to be a lot less convenient trying to rest the uskoc on your legs, also due to the curved side.

Ultimately, the uskoc just FEELS cheap as hell. The jkoc has a much more solid and professional feel to it, down to even the cord. There is nothing superior about the uskoc aside from the fact that it is significantly less expensive.

This a thousand times over. I started off on a USKOC then I bought a JKOC and was like "Holy shit why didn't I get this first".

KKiONI · 10-11-2009, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deca

Oh my god seriously the uskoc is by no means better, why do so many people seem to think it is. The buttons are just harder to press and travel further (thereby making it nigh impossible to time worth a damn if you're used to a jkoc. Seriously I don't get timing issues going from my controller to arcade but I'll B songs I normally AAA on a uskoc.)

Everyone I know that plays seriously has had them basically self destruct internally under normal use, all of the aligning tabs breaking off of the keys.

The keys on the jkoc are more prone to sticking, sure, but if you just take care of the damn thing, keep it clean, wash your hands before playing if you need to, there should be no real issues at all. It took 5 years for my controller to develop any sticking issues and even then they were easily remedied by adding a bit more cardboard to the keys.

The turntable on my jkoc has never been modded in any way and works amazingly. Every uskoc I've used has had horrible stiff turntables, even after modding.

The uskoc footprint also blows, the placement of the feet due to the curved side makes them much less effective in keeping the controller from shifting as you use it, a problem I've never experienced with the jkoc. Furthermore, if you play with the controller in your lap it's going to be a lot less convenient trying to rest the uskoc on your legs, also due to the curved side.

Ultimately, the uskoc just FEELS cheap as hell. The jkoc has a much more solid and professional feel to it, down to even the cord. There is nothing superior about the uskoc aside from the fact that it is significantly less expensive.

This was actually a big help. I thought a USKOC would be better because of price and availability, but from what you said, I think a JKOC would end up being the better deal. Now that I got that out of the way, now I have to find out what I'm going to do with my choice of CS.
My plan is to hope that Sirius CS will end up on the PS3 and just buy a PS3 and import it since I don't want to mod my PS2 in any way. It will be a long wait, but I think it might be my best bet. Does this sound like a good idea? I would mod my PS2 if it wasn't for the lack of a provided service in my area.

aroomwithaview · 10-12-2009, 12:08 AM

until something more than diekatzes lone testimony says that there is no lag in playing ps2 games on ps3 i wouldnt trust that to be a good option

plus i still insist there is no reason to currently assume which console sirius cs will be on

if any

just get a jps2

Dara-G. · 10-12-2009, 12:16 AM

3 options.

mod you system with a mod chip.
get swap magic.
*buy a jps2.*

Deca · 10-12-2009, 12:21 AM

Swapmagic with a fliptop is REALLY easy. I wouldn't worry about the install at all, you dont even need to completely remove the case, just the top half.

If you wanna get into the series you're going to want to have access to all the mixes (well, you dont have to have them all right off the bat, but the ability to play them)

From a beginner standpoint going with a fliptop would be much better. And seriously, it's a super easy install. Just be a little careful with the part that has the eject and reset buttons on it and there's nothing to mess up at all.

If you have a slim I hear it's even easier.

bLOOdSAW · 10-12-2009, 12:31 AM

Newer model slims only need a small rolled up ball of paper in the switch near the power button and its ready for swap magic.

KKiONI · 10-12-2009, 10:10 AM

@aroomwithaview: Well I heard that Empress CS will be the last PS2 CS. So I am going to assume they will continue the series on PS3 for Sirius CS. So I doubt that there'll be lag there. Though the info is helpful though. Dang PS3's backwards compatibility!

@Deca: I've heard of that mod. You open up the top half and block the sensors to the disk tray so it can't tell if it's open. Then you just swap the discs (can't remember when though but it should be easy to find).
Is that the mod you're talking about? I've considered that, but I have heard that the trick only works with PS1 games. Or is what I've heard incorrect? If it works with all games then maybe I might try doing that. It will certainly cut the costs and waiting time of setting myself up.