Beatmania songs v. DDR songs

capachijim · 07-31-2006, 09:55 PM

Is it just me, or are the songs that are the same in DDR and Beatmania a little different between games. Like the song "V" by Dj Taka is different in Beatmania and DDR.

Enoch-Fox · 07-31-2006, 10:03 PM

Oh you mean "V" and "V (for extreme)"?

Those ones?

shungokusatsu · 07-31-2006, 10:07 PM

That's because IIDX songs are usually longer than DDR. V (for EXTREME) that appears in DDR is a slightly shortened version of V from IIDX. Same goes for stoic, sync, 蒼い衝動 (Aoi Shoudou) (Blue Impules), L'amour et la liberte, Burning Heat!, xenon, A, and more. There can also be different arrangements from DDR to IIDX, such as SP-TRIP MACHINE (JUNGLE MIX) and PARANOiA MAX (DIRTY MIX).

bemaniguy: 2nd Style · 08-01-2006, 12:24 AM

Usually what they'll do is trim the song down from 2:00+ to around 1:30 to 1:50, so that the song lengths are in proportion with the each other. But for many songs that crossed over in EXTREME, the overall sound was changed. For example V (for EXTREME) has a louder bassline and one part in which an additional drum riff is played over exsisting track. Frozen Ray (for EXTREME) is another example, as it has a different ending.

Some songs have two versions which are even more significantly different sounding (if that's appropriate grammar). L'amour et la liberte and KI-SE-KI are examples of this, and they are usually indicated which version the edit was intended for [i.e. KI-SE-KI (IIDX RED/DDR ver.)]

When going the other way around, crossing over from DDR to IIDX, there is usually no change in the edit. There are acceptions with the earlier crossovers: SP-TRIP MACHINE (for beatmania II) and PUT YOUR FAITH IN ME (for beatmania II).

When the song is going from IIDX to DDR, if it is around the prefered length for a DDR edit, then the song won't be touched. For example, Electro Tuned, Holic, Jam & Marmalade, TwinBee, route 80s etc. However, some songs, usually crossed over in the X-box DDR series, are close to or over 2:00 and haven't been edited at all. These songs include both versions of Infinite Prayer, Nemesis, fly through the night etc.

Bottom line, if the crossover song is over the prefered length from it's original game, it will be shortened. If it meets or is under the prefered length, it probably won't be touched at all.

PGwojowski · 08-01-2006, 12:28 AM

Other versions of Burning Heat, Xenon, and A!?

I want them.

rmz · 08-01-2006, 01:04 AM

Burning Heat is exactly the same in DDR and IIDX except the DDR version is missing four measures at the beginning and four measures at the end. That's it.

A, similarly, is just missing a few measures in the DDR version.

Kayfour.* · 08-01-2006, 02:04 AM

V is the normal one, V for extreme is a remix of it?

rmz · 08-01-2006, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by shinjiz

V is the normal one, V for extreme is a remix of it?

It's not a remix so much as a slightly altered version, but...

"For Extreme" implies that it's an altered version, doesn't it? Of course "V" is the original and "V ~for EXTREME~" is the changed version.

Starmony · 08-01-2006, 03:29 AM

I dont know about everyone else but the songs in beatmania and IIDX sound alot nicer than DDR just because beatmania is a music making game and DDR is a dancing game though.

dog$ · 08-01-2006, 04:38 AM

That all depends upon who's playing the IIDX machine.

ps: it'd be cool to play the Don't Stop DDR remix in Beatmania, just for a change.

misterCQNZR · 08-01-2006, 07:53 AM

I'm surprised we got this far without mention of how different Colors sounds between the two games. When it was ported to Extreme, not only was it edited for time, but some of the vocals were EQed differently, and I think some of the backup vocal tracks were removed.

rmz · 08-01-2006, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dog$

That all depends upon who's playing the IIDX machine.

ps: it'd be cool to play the Don't Stop DDR remix in Beatmania, just for a change.

I would like to play the Gradiusic Cyber DDR remix in IIDX as well :<

ozymandiaz · 08-01-2006, 09:53 AM

I think most songs that go from IIDX to DDR get down-mixed, like the complex instrumental parts get toned down or cut out completely while the bass drum is emphasised to make it feel like they're all techno/dance songs... I guess to better fit the feel of what DDR is and possibly to make it so the usually rather simple steps make sense with the music.

spinel · 08-01-2006, 10:37 AM

Older Beatmania songs had just 1:15, 1:20 minutes.

But the new ones frequently are over 2:00, like A, Murmur Twins and Beyond the Earth.

bemaniguy: 2nd Style · 08-01-2006, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rmz

I would like to play the Gradiusic Cyber DDR remix in IIDX as well :<

Or the gentle stress remix.