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Old 10-07-2009, 07:43 AM   #436
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It's really quiet in here. '___'; I better writing quickly before I go to clay class
Anyway, Einherjar, about the language, I only know the seven deadly sins 'Luxuria' means Pride in Italian but I'm not sure...

Before I go, I want to ask a few questions:

1) Is Lien has a connection with Joah?
2) How and why the Spring of Lourdes dried up?
3) What is the meaning that the zealots of Hannes made a sanctuary for her in Megiddo?
4) What is happening after the battle between Shamshir and Adnowell?
5) In each story/booklet, is the strange 'plague' refers to Ristaccia? (I always thought that)

Sorry... That's too many questions. I'm confused. -__-

PS: I've made a first project clay doll Hannes ^__^
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Old 10-07-2009, 12:21 PM   #437
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Oh guys,really sorry.I spent all my time making BMS files and playing IIDX.

For your questions:

1. There must be a connection between them,though I'm not sure what exactly it is.

2&3. Maybe I should do Chapter 4-1-4 first.

4. You saw #410,right?

5. Nope.Ristaccia are eight pieces of rubies.How could they be a plague?Do you mean that Ristaccia caused the plague?
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Old 10-07-2009, 02:44 PM   #438
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If there are any chapters left undone, is it possible that you'd be able to fill us in?
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Old 10-08-2009, 06:58 AM   #439
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For your questions:

1. There must be a connection between them,though I'm not sure what exactly it is.

2&3. Maybe I should do Chapter 4-1-4 first.

4. You saw #410,right?

5. Nope.Ristaccia are eight pieces of rubies.How could they be a plague?Do you mean that Ristaccia caused the plague?
Oh. Okay. And I also thought Ristaccia caused the plague but that's just my expectation only. (I'm such a dumb)...
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:15 PM   #440
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Raison d'etre (aka Malchut vs L'erisia) Discussion... GO!

Reposting link just in case you guys don't want to go digging through the SIRIUS thread:

YouTube - [IIDX SIRIUS] Raison d'etre ~??????~

Zektbach never ceases to amaze me with every new song. Amazing video too. Interpretations/predictions anyone?

EDIT: I mean aside from the obvious Ristaccia vs. Turii stuff.

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Old 10-21-2009, 09:31 PM   #441
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I cleared it on DP Hyper,yeah
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Old 10-21-2009, 10:42 PM   #442
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I'm not really interested enough to dig through the thread and try to piece stuff together HOWEVER

I am curious enough to ask if this has been compiled in a wiki or something somewhere.
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I'll be happy if there is.My English is just too bad to translate all the things.
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My shot in the dark:

From the beginning of the video L'erisia looks like she lives in a spaceship or a beehive. But it looks like after we see all the characters she is being 'downloaded.' I think that she is ristaccia incarnate but can't take physical form until enough people have been corrupted by ristaccia.

After Malchut was 'saved' by that dude, she was taken back to that academy he works for and presented to Gijiri, who gives her a bath and clothes etc. From the video it looks like Gijiri saved Malchut from L'erisia.

Then Malchut tries to start Turii again but it doesn't work. Then it looks like Joah resurrects L'erisia to play lumberjack to Malchut's makeshift Turii and then they square off.

I think that L'erisia manages to posses Malchut because at 2:15 Malchut is standing just like L'erisia was when she was 'downloading.'

And the end result is a super-powerful hybrid that I'm going to call

L'emalisia
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^ I'm tending to like this interpretation. The only thing that I wouldn't agree with necessarily is that the two become a hybrid.

I currently believe that Hannes is the physical manifestation of L'erisia. Notice how she wasn't in the tower of characters being "downloaded"? Also, at 1:49 you notice that the two silhouettes rotating are of Malchut and Hannes. This, on top of all that was discussed before on how essentially Hannes is the "Ristaccia Child" and there is now little evidence to disprove L'erisia being the embodiment or will of Ristaccia only further justifies my theory.

I remember reading that Malchut eventually comes to the realization that she has no control to restore the power imbalance caused by the interuption of the Turii ceremony, which I think is exhibited at around 2:10-2:12 where Alpha says she looks like she was possessed.

What do you guys think?

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I hard cleared it on SP Another today.Yeah.

Well,maybe you can not see it clearly.

Gijiri tried to kill Malchut with a long Katana.Kukaru protected her and was killed by Gijiri.At that moment,for the first time Malchut understood the feeling called "sorrow"(they didn't have any emotions).The causality and the circulation of Turii System was broken for that.

I don't know much about L'erisia though.
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Is there any information we've yet to decipher throughout the entire story? I reckon it'll be better that when we get new information we can just get straight into and link it to earlier stuff faster. Also, who is Joah to Lien?
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YouTube - [IIDX SIRIUS] Raison d'etre ~??????~

A clearer version

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Wait,there's something wrong.

Let's think about one question:Why did all the characters appeared in this movie?

Gijiri lived in M.C. 0030s
Malchut and Kukaru lived in M.C. 0140s
Shamshir and Lien lived in M.C. 0700s
Hannes and The Twins lived in M.C. 0720s

They can't meet each other.Can they?

Malchut is about 600 years elder than the main characters.How could she know about them?Could this means that her life expectancy is much higher than Huminas?

Then,what's the story talking about?
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Old 10-24-2009, 07:47 AM   #449
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I still think there is something about humans creating this world. The appearance of human names and things in that world (Lien and Riemann, if I'm not mistaken), L'Erisia being "downloaded", the eletronic-like music and references, Sigma being an "internet" being (All that nonmaterial info inside her)... All of this makes me think that world is created by humans for some reason or another.

Anyway about Raison d'etre. I hate Malchut's clothing, she now looks like Sakura from CCS.

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I currently believe that Hannes is the physical manifestation of L'erisia. Notice how she wasn't in the tower of characters being "downloaded"?
She was. Above Sigma and under Lien.

Also, now I'm thinking there can be some connection between the "main characters" and the Turii people. Notice how, at the end of the video, as Malchut is throwing her hands on the air, the "main characters column" is shown and then the "turii" one is, all going upward.

I dunno, to me it looks like Malchut isn't mature enough to fight L'Erisia and then she goes under some kind of epiphany and "discovers" some way to restore the balance. Then, Ristaccia is shown... Bizarre.

I dunno.
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Gijiri lived in M.C. 0030s
Malchut and Kukaru lived in M.C. 0140s
Shamshir and Lien lived in M.C. 0700s
Hannes and The Twins lived in M.C. 0720s

They can't meet each other.Can they?

Malchut is about 600 years elder than the main characters.How could she know about them?Could this means that her life expectancy is much higher than Huminas?

Then,what's the story talking about?
Perhaps the Melius Calendar doesn't meausre years like the Gregorian Calendar.

Also, about the electronic sounds, I know there are synths used in all the zektbach songs, but that particular sound so far has only been found in L'erisia, Raison D'etre and Ark Oroborous. Someone in this forum mentioned that there was a project called the Oroborous project, do we know anything about that?
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