Happy Sky has Auto-Adjust

Irobeth · 12-12-2006, 10:09 PM

HD Users, rejoice!

Start by setting 'Timing adjust' to as close to normal timing as possible.
After a few hits, the game figures out your display lag and compensates.

Thought it'd be handy info for anyone worried.

The downside to this (?) is that your scores are remarkably better than normal if you play consistently.

MagnetiX · 12-12-2006, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Irobeth

HD Users, rejoice!

Start by setting 'Timing adjust' to as close to normal timing as possible.
After a few hits, the game figures out your display lag and compensates.

Thought it'd be handy info for anyone worried.

The downside to this (?) is that your scores are remarkably better than normal if you play consistently.

How is that exactly a downside?
And I guess i'll be able to play on the new TV we're getting soon, yay.

Irobeth · 12-12-2006, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnetiX

How is that exactly a downside?
And I guess i'll be able to play on the new TV we're getting soon, yay.

Your scores are less reputable due to the autosync aiding you.

PICASIO PICASIO · 12-12-2006, 11:23 PM

Yes. Yes. YES.
Konami, I'll Make Love To You.

MagnetiX · 12-12-2006, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Irobeth

Your scores are less reputable due to the autosync aiding you.

But that's part of the games engine, isn't it?
Would this affect my timing on other IIDX games? I don't want to playin on a new Plasma and AAA'in shit and out of nowhere, I go back to playing a regular TV and i'm over here with E's and D's on L7

Irobeth · 12-12-2006, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnetiX

But that's part of the games engine, isn't it?
Would this affect my timing on other IIDX games? I don't want to playin on a new Plasma and AAA'in shit and out of nowhere, I go back to playing a regular TV and i'm over here with E's and D's on L7

if you're used to a CRT, you'll be playing with CRT timing. HD will adjust to your CRT timing.

MagnetiX · 12-12-2006, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Irobeth

if you're used to a CRT, you'll be playing with CRT timing. HD will adjust to your CRT timing.

Ah, ok, that sounds good then.

uLTraCarL · 12-13-2006, 12:17 AM

hmmmmmm

is that why I was hitting AA's and shit tonight?
I even scored a AA on under the sky rather when I played it a few days ago I got a D due to the new tv

hm is it turned on by default? I didnt touch the options execpt for the arcade options selection

rmz · 12-13-2006, 12:47 AM

Are you sure that there's auto-adjust? I had to fiddle with the settings several times before I found a setting that wasn't laggy.

Amp Divorax · 12-13-2006, 01:14 AM

The timing adjustment is the only thing on there. From what I've seen there is no auto-sync in the game and if there was Konami would have put an option to turn it on and off on there.

Irobeth · 12-13-2006, 01:16 AM

I'm pretty sure there is - I screwed with timing adjust off and on and checked it in training mode until I found one close, but when I started actually playing I noticed that as the first notes drop the notechart hops up to match my timing.
As a result I'm scoring better than I do on a normal TV

I also had to fiddle with the timing to find a good starting point - first +4, then -4, then -3, then -2.
Since -2, it's been snapping to my hits.
It makes sense to me that if you are a small amount of time off from every note, the game would compensate (A scale of -5 to +5 isn't really helpful if you have some weird lag (mine's +67ms)) so the +5/-5 is only to get you in an area where the game can compensate for the specifics.

Ryebread · 12-15-2006, 03:19 AM

Does it auto-sync after the first 5 hits on every song you play, or does it do it for the first song you play and lock to that timing?

rmz · 12-15-2006, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Irobeth

I'm pretty sure there is - I screwed with timing adjust off and on and checked it in training mode until I found one close, but when I started actually playing I noticed that as the first notes drop the notechart hops up to match my timing.

So that requires that you hit the first several notes with perfect timing. What if you're a beginner at the game who get Goods on everything? Is the game going to sync things up so it throws the timing off even more?

Again, I somewhat doubt the game has any sort of "auto-adjust" seeing how the feature is completely undocumented and not referred to anywhere.

Sion Barzhad · 12-15-2006, 04:40 PM

I'm not seeing this 'auto-adjust' timing either. And I certainly hope my new AAAs and PCs/FCs aren't due to some certain timing aid I'd rather work without. Under Options > Display Settings > Adjustment Timing, it was set to default. If it is helping me in a big way, I'd be disappointed.

dudabo · 12-16-2006, 04:22 PM

I was playing on my friends 40'' LCD last night with him, and after adjusting the timing to -2 and playing for a bit we started to suspect the same thing.

Consider that TV's dont have uniform lag and that there are only 10 different timing adjust settings. It wouldn't be suprising if konami had an auto-adjust in place...after recording so many pgreats/greats/goods the game may adjust the timing windows (hopefully not widen them, but move them even more precisely than you could in the options menu). I'm sure the way the game does it is far more sophisticated than recording the first few hits of the song.

It would be really terrible if Konami widened the windows with timing adjust on, but I'm pretty sure there is some sort of auto-adjust in there.