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Old 10-12-2009, 05:40 PM   #31
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Well, if they try to sue somebody (SCRATCH LOL) for copyright infringement, then they'd probably make another crappy US beatmania game. Just to say "hay look we're using our patents!!1!1" But of course it would fail and we'd get to complain some more. I for one would not buy a US PS2 just to play whatever IIDX game they might come out with in the future for us. If at all.
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:21 PM   #32
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IIDX is the wrong kind of game to be popular in the US. If it were meant to be mainstream it would be. Enough people know about it, and try to spread the word, but it just hasn't caught on and it won't the way that it is now. And why would they change it? It does just fine in japan.
You know Konami could at least acknowledge the IIDX players outside Japan by removing the region locks on their games. That's all I ask Konami to do.
If they brought it back to the NA again, they'd probably screw it up in some way. Heck, they've screwed up on every series they brought here. We always seem to be playing catch up in DDR, Pop'n was a failure on Wii and Beat'n Groovy was disappointing, and BMUS had so many things that were wrong with it.
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:41 PM   #34
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:43 AM   #37
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IMHO I like my IIDX a lil underground. DJ Hero kids can suck it.
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Old 10-14-2009, 02:33 PM   #38
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To say beat'n Groovy was a disappointed is the understatement of the universe.

That game wasn't even PLAYABLE.
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Old 10-19-2009, 06:17 PM   #39
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I'm hearing a lot of "Americans wouldn't be interested in/like/be pantient enough to play it if it came to America."

My question, has anyone actually tried to show it to their friends. I mean I bought BMUS when it came out, and I showed it to a bunch of my friends. They were stepmania/DDR players to begin with (though not hardcore fanatics like most of us on bemanistyle) but they seemedc to love it once they got into it.

Seriously, these kids are your typical american gamer kids who play guitar hero, halo, listen to metal and all that, and all I had to do was show them this game and they fell in love with it.

Has anyone actually tried this yet?

Seriously, if people actually knew about this (moreso than the few of us that frequent boards like these) then I think IIDX could have a pretty big following.

BMUS only failed because konami gave it a crappy songlist, and it was never promoted. A simple TV ad or a bundle with a DDR game or something could have made it a lot more successful.

Also, with the rumors flying around about future IIDX releases on PS3, we won't have to worry about having modded systems or anything like that since most import PS3 games are region-free. We just need to get the word out guys.
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My question, has anyone actually tried to show it to their friends.
Most of my friends flat out refuse to come over to chill if they know I'm gonna be playing IIDX for any duration of time.

I can't even offer drugs to entice them, they will have no part of it.
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Seriously, these kids are your typical american gamer kids who play guitar hero, halo, listen to metal and all that, and all I had to do was show them this game and they fell in love with it.

Has anyone actually tried this yet?

Seriously, if people actually knew about this (moreso than the few of us that frequent boards like these) then I think IIDX could have a pretty big following.
I definitely agree with what you mentioned about BMUS's songlist. It wasn't too great, but I have shown this game to my friends (the ones who didn't already know about it).

To answer your question, the general reaction is yes, they are interested, but then people will say something like "this is like guitar hero" which fills me with rage since beatmania came out almost a decade before guitar hero, and the two games have a very different feel to them. I like that bemani musicians make songs for their games, and some of them even play beatmania. I like following the musicians and I always have since I got into Stepmania early on in high school. That aspect is really missing from Guitar Hero, and I don't want to make this a whole bm vs gh debate, but I'm still curious why people want this game popular in the US. Sure, there aren't many iidx machines in the states, but I'd prefer beatmania's current situation to, say, having iidx turn into another ddrx. :\

Hopefully I make some sense.
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Old 10-19-2009, 06:59 PM   #42
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lol people getting angry when their niche game is being compared to a well known game that has more of an understanding in the groups of people you are showcasing said niche game to.
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I see what you're saying. It probably is the wrong crowd but all my other friends know about bemani and play the games like fiends so there really isn't a middle ground if that makes sense. People are either clueless or way into it.
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:47 PM   #44
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well I guess I've had the fortune of meeting people that are way into it.

To be quite honest, most people won't develop much on interest in the series that play games like rock band and GH. They tend to be drawn to the party-atmosphere and popular music selection more than the satisfaction one gets from matching colored gems on screen with a controller vaguely shaped like a musical instrument. The friends of mine that did fall in love with IIDX were definitely the latter. Sure they're metal-heads, but they play GH for the satisfaction of five-starring through the gfire and the flames more than anything else. That's where the common ground lies.

Though thinking about it now, the only benefit we would get from enough popularity in the states to garner the interested of the konami execs we seem to have such general contempt for, would be region-free IIDX games, and the way I see it, if we get PS3 version from SIRIUS on out, we won't have to worry about that anyway. Plusd the USB IIDX controllers would probably work on our PC sims too.

I'm all for being a niche gamer and keeping IIDX out of the mainstream, but I at least want something I can play without modding my system.
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To say beat'n Groovy was a disappointed is the understatement of the universe.

That game wasn't even PLAYABLE.
This.

Fortunately it's hard to be let down when your expectations are so low. Good thing they showed us their awful art before the thing even came out.
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