How could we get IIDX popular in the U.S.?

[m335h73r of PBJ]

Originally Posted by NMD

Pretty sure it's illegal to make copies of any game, regardless of whether you own a legit copy (EULA states making any copies is prohibited). Sure you can argue they're backups, but it's still illegal. Not that I'm criticising, I make backups myself

There is nothing illegal with making a backup of your legitimately owned data.

[NMD]

Originally Posted by Sexual Inherendo

There is nothing illegal with making a backup of your legitimately owned data.

Pretty sure that's wrong, at least for EU territories. There should be a line in the EULA stating no unauthorized copying, which extends to backups. I could be wrong though (it's happened once or twice before). It's also worth noting that you don't own any data on the disc, you own a license to play said data from said disc.

[deathrazor]

The United States FCC (or whoever) allows personal backups of legitimately owned products.

[Go Beyond!!]

All the styles are so expensive, and the controllers are more expensive to import to the UK now.

Much less of a following in the UK for sure.

I preach it at any conventions I go to, despite people being unable to clear 2* most of the time.

[NMD]

Originally Posted by Shortest Straw

The United States FCC (or whoever) allows personal backups of legitimately owned products.

Damn you America!!!


@ Go Beyond - I presume you're talking of UK conventions? If so, IIDX was at the London MCM expo last weekend, managed to get my first taste of an ASC (Dao RES no less).

[m335h73r of PBJ]

Originally Posted by NMD

Pretty sure that's wrong, at least for EU territories. There should be a line in the EULA stating no unauthorized copying, which extends to backups. I could be wrong though (it's happened once or twice before). It's also worth noting that you don't own any data on the disc, you own a license to play said data from said disc.

Nanny State.

[Cudda_Kine]

Only if Konami would make an "American Version". So far, Our local arcade (Fun Factory) only gets american made stuff. They had Hiphopmania Complete Mix 1 & 2 because it's not a "Beatmania" name which says "For use only in Japan" when it starts up.

Now, if Konami would make HipHopmaniaIIDX (lol) that would probably bring it here to Fun Factory. And maybe put some popular american songs on it too if possible like.... Kanye West, G-Unit, Eminem, and others? haha

Just my 2cents!

[Cudda_Kine]

Oh ya! Offtopic...

One time, my brother didn't know what beatmania was. He saw a folder named "beatmania" on my computer and thought it was some kind of gay porn or something lol.

[aroomwithaview]

Originally Posted by Cudda_Kine

Only if Konami would make an "American Version". So far, Our local arcade (Fun Factory) only gets american made stuff.

that arcade would have no problem getting a japanese iidx machine if they thought it made business sense to do

[deathrazor]

Originally Posted by Cudda_Kine

Now, if Konami would make HipHopmaniaIIDX (lol) that would probably bring it here to Fun Factory. And maybe put some popular american songs on it too if possible like.... Kanye West, G-Unit, Eminem, and others? haha

oh my god shut up

[m335h73r of PBJ]

Originally Posted by Cudda_Kine

Only if Konami would make an "American Version". So far, Our local arcade (Fun Factory) only gets american made stuff. They had Hiphopmania Complete Mix 1 & 2 because it's not a "Beatmania" name which says "For use only in Japan" when it starts up.

Now, if Konami would make HipHopmaniaIIDX (lol) that would probably bring it here to Fun Factory. And maybe put some popular american songs on it too if possible like.... Kanye West, G-Unit, Eminem, and others? haha

Just my 2cents!

quotin' dis.

[DeusExMachina]

Unfortunately arcades do not have a trench in American society as they do in Japanese society. People of all ages here in Japan play beatmania. Yes I have seen people in business suits line up to play that game.

Very few stand alone arcades in America actually make a whole lot of money and pretty much no one is going is willing to spend money equivalent to a car for a machine that plays songs in a different language.

One reason beatmania is really expensive is because the majority of the songs are made by artists and studios owned by konami. It would be a lot cheaper to acquire licensing rights of existing songs which is what guitar hero does.

All in all, arcade games just aren't popular enough in the US to justify marketing in the states. Similarly, 98% of Japan has never heard of world of warcraft.

[aroomwithaview]

Originally Posted by DeusExMachina

One reason beatmania is really expensive is because the majority of the songs are made by artists and studios owned by konami. It would be a lot cheaper to acquire licensing rights of existing songs which is what guitar hero does.

what

thats the exact reverse of the truth

there is still licenced music in iidx like through avex label stuff but it isnt a majority of the song roster and thats because licencing stuff is always more costly than developing music within the company

98% of Japan has never heard of world of warcraft.

if anything im pretty sure most people in japan know world of warcraft but choose to play monster hunter instead

[Trip Machina]

Speaking of getting beatmania/IIDX popular in the US, yesterday, I hosted an 8 hour presentation of the series in the arcade yesterday. I had brought beatmania GOTTAMIX, beatmania CLUB MIX, beatmania 6th MIX + CORE REMIX, beatmaniaIIDX 4th style, beatmaniaIIDX 13 DistorteD, beatmaniaIIDX 15 DJ TROOPERS, and beatmaniaIIDX 16 EMPRESS + PREMIUM BEST.

Out of alllllllll that time, I've only attracted around 3~4 people who actually came up to me and asked about the game...2 of them showing genuine interest.

See, this arcade is in a mall, however, the manager only allowed me to have the game setup in the little open room in the back of the arcade, so in order to even see the game or hear the game, you had to come into the arcade. Arcade wasn't so busy...if ONLY she had allowed me to set up the game at the arcade entrance......but that would have posed a problem for the store across the hall due to the extremely high volume level I had, hahaha!

I feel just a bit accomplished, but I also feel that so much potential was lost.

[RADIORAMA]

Let it go, it shall stay the way it is. It does not need to be popular in the US.