IIDX compatibility

[Brian-san]

I've been looking into purchasing a Playstation 3, but the biggest factor for me in making the decision is backwards compatibility (namely beatmania games). I know the 60GB models have full (or almost 100%) backwards compatibility with PS2/PS games.

The bulk of my import PS2 games are IIDX and Taiko no Tatsujin games, along with their respective controllers. Obviously I would need a Japanese 60GB model, and I was wondering if anyone has had experience with this topic.

Just some basic questions: Do the games play fine (no audio/video errors)? Can the special controllers be used/is an adapter needed for this? Also, I assume there will be some lag when playing, but will it be major, or something small that one can easily get used to? Or, should I simply keep my import PS2 and not switch to the PS3?

Thanks in advance for the help.

[Blacksgiving]

Don't switch.

Buy PS3 anyway.

Switch consoles when you want to play either PS3 or IIDX.

Problem solved.

[M4j3s7ic12]

Hmm, I do not have any first hand experience, but I remember hearing not great things about a while ago.

I think you will have the most problem finding a Japanese 60GB PS3, or certainly one a at normal price. NSCX have a sale on their Jap PS3s at the moment too, just $889!

I guess the best solution is to hang on to the PS2, especially if it is a slim one as it hardly takes up any space.

[afex.racer_X]

Originally Posted by Guido Fistpump

Don't switch.

Buy PS3 anyway.

Switch consoles when you want to play either PS3 or IIDX.

Problem solved.

Agreed. Buy one to have one, but don't play IIDX or any other music simulator for PS2 on it. Japanese, American, Lebanese doesn't matter which one you buy, it will play all. Not to mention.... Blu Ray movies.

[eddie]

Originally Posted by afex.racer_X

Agreed. Buy one to have one, but don't play IIDX or any other music simulator for PS2 on it. Japanese, American, Lebanese doesn't matter which one you buy, it will play all. Not to mention.... Blu Ray movies.

Keep in mind that Blu Ray isn't region free. If you intend on using it for movies at all, you'll want a PS3 from your region. Only PS3 games are region free.

[Gosha]

I have a US PS3 and recently bought a JPS2 slim because my PS2 fatty stopped reading blue discs. The slim is very small and is nice to just have to play IIDX/Pop'n. US PS2 slims are pretty cheap too if you look around (ebay, craigslist) and are pretty easy to mod. Unless BEMANI makes the jump to PS3, your best bet is to just play BEMANI games on PS2.

[kknd]

Japan and US belong to the same blu-ray region, so it's not a big problem, but as for PS2 games, the last time I heard, they are still having major lag issues with the PS2 deinterlacing process.

[Napakane]

Buy a PS3. Keep your PS2. Unless Konami will keep producing PS2 games indefinately [which they wont] you will eventually need a ps3 anyway. And you could only sell the PS2 for the price of a used trojan these days anyway

[aroomwithaview]

ps2 beatmania iidx on ps3

everything has already been said in there

the ps3 introduces fifty milliseconds of lag input on ps2 games

iidx will be relatively unplayable

heres a video of what bust a groove looks like on a ps3 with the lag

YouTube - PS3 frame lag - Bust a Groove

as i already said in that thread

ps2 iidx on ps3 is not and never will be a viable option

ps: Brian-san the other thread was still on the first page when you made this

please read the threads which may already have answers to the questions youre asking

thanks

[Blackraven]

Though......

Even with SCEI announcing their plans for their PS2 software emulation program (since new PS3 units being produced have no built-in PS2 playback), it's still a hard gamble as to whether BM IIDX games would be supported.

Even the upcoming 160GB SKU unit will have no built-in PS2 support.

So yeah, keep your PS2 unit(s) till then (or whenever BM IIDX moves to PS3...........though that'll take a few more years before that happens)

[aroomwithaview]

ps2 compability by means of software emulation still wont fix the three frames of lag issue

so thats irrelevant

im also predicting that there will never be a iidx developed for the ps3

[Blackraven]

Originally Posted by aroomwithaview

ps2 compability by means of software emulation still wont fix the three frames of lag issue

Hmm........

I thought that for SD games are interlaced, the PS3 converts this into a progressive resolution (instead of letting the HDTV do the I-P conversion.......which causes the motion problem).

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In any other case, it's still too early to tell as to what next gen console it would go.

It's basically either Wii or PS3.

Wii because it's chepest next gen console and currently has the widest user base support. Though, by making the switch, all you current controllers will be rendered useless (unless perhaps you buy a USB converter).

PS3 because of easier transition coding. Though this may take longer as Konami is probably waiting for more people to buy PS3s and such...before they make a move

That's just my opinion though.

[The Butthole Surfer]

Originally Posted by aroomwithaview

im also predicting that there will never be a iidx developed for the ps3

Eh, I'm predicting you're wrong. Eventually, IIDX is going to get some sort of graphical evolution (if DDR Universe could, this can too), and it'll start coming.

AC IIDX runs on computer hardware, right? Developers make PC ports for PS3 (or 360 ports for PS3) quite often, it's how multi-platform games are made.

It may not be anytime soon, but eventually, it will come.

[ceraf]

what sort of graphical improvements could they do? 3d-rendered interface and notes? i really hope if they do, it's done well.

[thecatz]

Maybe not ingame improve , but with the last beautifull Interface we get with , just imagine this on PS3 , could be awesome.

By the way , i really hope they'll make next IIDX / DDR on next gen ( even on PS3 , and i don't have it ) , 'cause i'm sick and tired of lag on HD.

Or just make a powerfull lag calibration tool , not a " -1 -2 -3 " , something that could be very precise =/