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Old 04-01-2007, 09:47 PM   #16
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D&B rules is something like this:

under 21 get the boot at around 11ish. reason? the bar.

if you want to get in under 21, you need to have someone be your 'guardian' or what not for the time you are inside the facility but the catch is that 'guardian' needs to be 25 or older.

everything inside D&B is overpriced anyways, including the food and drinks, why would you want it there.
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Old 04-01-2007, 10:06 PM   #17
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So apparently carding is hard nowadays? Who's the nun running this chain?
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Old 04-01-2007, 10:28 PM   #18
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Also do Gameworks exist elsewhere? I'm trying to think of other chains, but I'm not sure if they exist outside of where I live.
Theres a Gameworks in Seattle, no D&B anywhere near here. There are at least one of each in the Chicagoland area though.

To the people saying that there's little point in talking directly to these companies, That may be true, but it doesnt hurt to ask, does it? Worst case they ignore you, but wouldn't it be nice if they did listen?
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Old 04-01-2007, 11:09 PM   #19
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everything inside D&B is overpriced anyways, including the food and drinks, why would you want it there.
...because there's a decent chance that if a big chain (and/or large number of arcades) do(es)n't get it then Konami won't release it in the US?

why wouldn't you want it at a D&B? from my experience they've always taken GREAT care of the machines, employees are really courteous, the food served is of good quality, and game prices have only been marginally more expensive than elsewhere ($1.20 for a game of Pump Zero right when it came out, $1.25 for HotD 4 right when it came out, etc.). It's a respectable establishment where you won't have to worry about kids running around bugging you while you play that's generally always clean and well-run. I don't see any issue at all.

Like I said, if anyone else has better ideas of who to try, I'm all-ears, but I don't see a problem with D&B and I especially don't get people that are sitting here going "lol u kids think this is gunna werk lolol". A petition and repeated interest brought Happy Sky, Pop'n 13, and Pump Zero to my local arcade, which is much more frugal and scummy than a typical D&B. If anyone can honestly bring up good, constructive reasons why not to even try I'm all ears, but otherwise do me a favor and just stay out of the thread instead of trolling.

[edit] and at least at my local D&B here in Omaha, it is 18 or older to get in. It could be different elsewhere, but I was under the assumption they nationally dropped it to 18.

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Old 04-02-2007, 12:13 AM   #20
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Oh I get it, this was all an April Fool's joke, right? [/joke]



Edit: But on a more serious note, it's always worth a shot. After all, it's not like we've got anything to lose asking big arcade chains like D&B to pick up IIDX, right? Glad to see there's still fight in the old dog that is IIDX (domestically speaking).
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Old 04-02-2007, 12:20 AM   #21
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Last time I was at the D&B in Illinois was a while ago (about 5 years, when I turned 21), but they allowed people under 21 until something like 10:00 pm.

Braz: I totally agree with you. I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want a IIDX machine near them? Who cares if it's overpriced! It seems to me that if Konami has finally decided to bite the bullet and localize a version of IIDX and it doesn't sell, they'll never consider it again.

Now personally, I have never been a big fan of D&B. It IS expensive and their drinks are weak... But what does it matter? If everyone on these boards sent an email to D&B (and GameWorks) you gotta admit that they would at least consider what we are asking. If either (or both) decided to pick up these machines, even if they didn't do fantastic, it would encourage Konami to consider the US for the next AC style. This could even help possible CS releases in the US as well!


I dont want to rant about this , and I'm not saying that if we email D&B and GW they will shell out the cash for IIDX machines. But if we don't tell these companies about IIDX, how could they ever know we want them?

As far as I'm aware, larger arcade/bar/food chains don't have any sort presence on boards like this.
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Old 04-02-2007, 12:25 AM   #22
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I was there a few weeks ago in IL and they didn't bother carding me and my friends (I went with my parents for my spring break, lololol, I'm only 20). But after the you must leave if you're 21 thing, they didn't really say anything to us. I even got offered drinks by the bouncer dudes walking around, so I think it depends on how old you LOOK too. Random words, my apologies.
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Old 04-02-2007, 12:30 AM   #23
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I was there a few weeks ago in IL and they didn't bother carding me and my friends (I went with my parents for my spring break, lololol, I'm only 20). But after the you must leave if you're 21 thing, they didn't really say anything to us. I even got offered drinks by the bouncer dudes walking around, so I think it depends on how old you LOOK too. Random words, my apologies.
Actually, when I was there, I know they made the call to have the underagers leave, but my <21 friends stuck around and it didnt really matter. I doubt they care all that much anyways, as long as you arent getting smashed and making trouble.

I don't know how someone could afford to get drunk and D&B's anyways.
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Old 04-02-2007, 03:09 AM   #24
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So apparently carding is hard nowadays? Who's the nun running this chain?
Every machine has a switch on it you can flip to bring a server to that machine to take your alcohol orders, that's the reason they don't want younger patrons after a certain time. I speak only for the Buffalo location, but I assume it's similar elsewhere.

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Old 04-02-2007, 03:12 AM   #25
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Honestly, you really CAN'T afford the drinks there. The food alone was hella expensive - I mean, I ordered my own personal chocolate fondue (oh GOD was that a beautiful tray of love), and that was probably 10 bucks as it was. Plus we got appetizers in the actual game room since the wait to eat was nearly 2.5 hours...

It WAS a fun place, but I don't know how excited I am to go back again anytime soon...
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Old 04-02-2007, 03:49 AM   #26
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Just so y'all know, the lead manager at D&B will probably tell you to make a suggestion to the "Amusement Manger." They're the ones that decide what to buy and how their budget looks like.

Good luck with GW. The only experience I've had with their corporate is that they're a bunch of schmucks.


D&B drinks are weak? In Chicago, both D&B's have MUCH better selection of liquor and MUCH better bartenders than GW (well, give or take, D&B bartenders are sometimes more snobby, but have made me much better drinks than at GW, where the bartenders can be really cool, but can only make really basic drinks...sometimes). GW here waters down anything mixed like hell, and I've had plenty of drinks that just aren't even made right (or made with a really crappy recipe). Their beer specials aren't bad though...sometimes.

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Old 04-02-2007, 04:20 AM   #27
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I haven't had experience drinking there, but the one by me at least has always had a deal where you can get a $10 gamecard and your choice of 8 meals for $16. $6 for a big, generally really good meal has never seemed like a bad deal.

And yeah about the 'switches to summon a waiter' bit.

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Old 04-02-2007, 07:30 AM   #28
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make sure to tell them IIDX would be better than DDR or pump or whatever after food/alcohol...
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Old 04-02-2007, 09:22 AM   #29
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IIRC, the one in NYC on 42nd is 21+ to enter on your own at all times, plus the other rules regarding underage folks (need to be with someone 25 or older if your under 21). Anyways, while some might say that this is a Heculean task at best, at least if its on their game floor, it will be pretty active since they'll be a lot of regular folks trying their hand at it, just like how SN is a breadwinner over there (basically there are more new and casual players on the machine than hardcores, most of which can't get past the bouncers on their own). Another good talking point is to tell them how IIDX is related to its Bemani cousin, DDR; you could say that folks who play DDR will be able to identify some of the songs from IIDX that crossed over, thus sparking interest in it. In all, it never hurts to try.

EDIT: Off topic, even though most of their drinks are near $9, they'll get you fucked up pretty quick. Big ass mug of Guinness + Mojito FTW!

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Old 04-02-2007, 09:42 AM   #30
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I could have sworn I heard a rumor a few months back that D&Bs were getting IIDX cabinets... but if that was false, then I'll hope for this, since the D&B nearby is one of the main places I play Zero at.

They're great places for audience, and good to get water at for playing(the bars usually just give it to you). Also, little to no kids.

The bad news, of course, is the age restriction. And of course, you have to consider that in all likelihood, a IIDX machine would not do well at D&B. They have PIU machines because they're high profile, and they get attention, even when beginners play.

IIDX cabinets look gorgeous, but it's not the most beginner-appealing game in the world.

It has beginner mode, of course, but the average 20~30-something adult, D&B's main demographic, won't have any idea what's going on.
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