Just purchased a lagless HDTV just wanted to share with anyone - Page 20

Blackraven · 08-12-2009, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Zemata

I have a Samsung LCD and Its 120hz but It always projects in 60hz. I looked everywhere in the menus, there's no options for it or anything. Does anyone know anything about this?

Take note though that the use of any form of motion reproduction (or motion interpolation) may yield different effects that are not always positive. In some cases, the abnormal frame rate doubling (multiplying) may not yield so good when it appears on-screen. This is indeed helpful for certain games but not all games (especially those that are strict on timing) would experience such benefits and in some cases, may backfire.

In LCD, manufacturers depend on it to solve to slow panel response time of LCD panels (esp. those using CCFL). However, these methods are artificial and does the processing engine does not always get it right.

It's like providing recommending a cure to flu by suggesting higher antibiotic intake.....

Just a friendly tip/FYI

jmh_86 · 08-13-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jmh_86

I just ordered a 46" Panasonic G10 from newegg. It shipped yesterday. I'm really excited and will be sure to check in with updates. I normally use a Yamaha surround sound system so I'll have to see how much audio lag that introduces.

My TV arrived on Tuesday, got everything set up and running. First off this thing looks amazing I'm coming from 37" no name LCD and it's like night and day. As far as IIDX goes, I'm a very novice player so I don't know if I would be able to notice small lag +\-1 or not, but playing at 0 timing seems to be fine. I don't notice any audio lag from running it through my receiver either which is good.
I don't have component cables yet but don't really have any gripes with composite. I'm not using the "GAME" port on the tv either. Overall very happy with my purchase!

Blackraven · 08-13-2009, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jmh_86

My TV arrived on Tuesday, got everything set up and running. First off this thing looks amazing I'm coming from 37" no name LCD and it's like night and day. As far as IIDX goes, I'm a very novice player so I don't know if I would be able to notice small lag +\-1 or not, but playing at 0 timing seems to be fine. I don't notice any audio lag from running it through my receiver either which is good.
I don't have component cables yet but don't really have any gripes with composite. I'm not using the "GAME" port on the tv either. Overall very happy with my purchase!

Nice. The G10 should prove to be a solid set (it's not that far from the North American G15 anyways save for viera cast I think). In any case, you should try it with "GAME" port on and see if the results are better

Nevertheless enjoy your new TV

Solefald · 08-14-2009, 06:27 AM

Do the smaller Aquos TV's also have no lag?

Blackraven · 08-24-2009, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Solefald

Do the smaller Aquos TV's also have no lag?

That I dunno.

Problem with Aquos sets is that they are inconsistent. The best bet here is that you get the ones that are designed for gaming (such as the 1080p unit with Vyper Drive processing). Other than that, well you can get their LED backlit models such as the XS1 (though atm, these are more expensive than their RGB CCFL backlit models)

MdX MaxX · 08-24-2009, 06:55 AM

I uploaded a video review of my Viera:

YouTube - Panasonic Viera TC-P42X1 Plasma HDTV Review + Dazzlin' Darlin' [h] AAA and Time to Air [n] AAA

sherl0k · 08-26-2009, 07:11 AM

LOL guitar hero timing, talk about wide as a football field

GraveyG · 08-27-2009, 03:45 PM

This may have been discussed already, but has anyone IIDX lag tested any of the Samsung OLED T.V.'s yet? I wish to know if they have lag, because I'm considering one as my next set, and it would suck if there is lag. I can't go out and test it right now because my friend is borrowing my PS2. :/

Blackraven · 09-01-2009, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GraveyG

This may have been discussed already, but has anyone IIDX lag tested any of the Samsung OLED T.V.'s yet? I wish to know if they have lag, because I'm considering one as my next set, and it would suck if there is lag. I can't go out and test it right now because my friend is borrowing my PS2. :/

I don't think Samsung has any OLED TVs out yet (on sale that is). The only ones available now is the Sony XEL-1 (11 inch) unit. Then by Q4 2009, LG might launch their first OLED TV (15 inch). None from Samsung as of yet.

@in other news

I heard of an explanation as to why some Sharp Aquos sets have lag while some don't. Perhaps one explanation (that I've read from AVS forums) is that some of their sets use IPS Panels (like the one Panasonic uses for their LCDs which is good) but the rest are S-PVA (like what Samsung and Sony use for their LCD panels which is notorious for frame lag)

So yeah, that could possibly one explanation as to such. Anyways, if you wanna read up on it, then you can follow this link below:
Lag: Plasma vs LCD - Page 2 - AVS Forum

GraveyG · 09-01-2009, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackraven

I don't think Samsung has any OLED TVs out yet (on sale that is). The only ones available now is the Sony XEL-1 (11 inch) unit. Then by Q4 2009, LG might launch their first OLED TV (15 inch). None from Samsung as of yet

This site has a list of Samsung's LED t.v.s
LED - TV | SAMSUNG

and i know they're available because I'm seen one at London drugs. I just don't know if they have lag or not.

tengai · 09-03-2009, 05:23 PM

Quick question guys: when playing on LCD or plasma TV's do you change the adjustment timing for IIDX games?

I just purchased a Panasonic TC-32LX14 32” LCD HDTV and I'm having trouble finding the correct timing. I used to play on a Westinghouse 32" (SK-32H540S) and when I set the adjustment timing to (-1) it played almost exactly like the arcade. But with this new Panasonic one, I just can't seem to find it. Any suggestions?

MdX MaxX · 09-03-2009, 06:35 PM

If you can't seem to get it, maybe the TV has audio lag. Try using a Y cable to connect the PS2 audio to PC speakers.

Quantium · 09-03-2009, 07:10 PM

Hard to say, most of the TV's (unless noted in this specific thread) will have some kind of lag because of the conversion process. I'm not sure about Panasonic, but I know my Sharp Aquos has no lag, and thus, no need for any timing adjustments.

Amican · 09-03-2009, 10:07 PM

So just to triple check, the TC-P42G10 is a lagless set?

Because here, apparently, it lags a bit:
The Official Plasma Input Lag Thread. - AVS Forum

**cmcm** · 09-04-2009, 11:09 AM

If you read the whole thread, it says it has virtually none if you enable Game Mode.