Just purchased a lagless HDTV just wanted to share with anyone

[Amican]

Originally Posted by cmcm

If you read the whole thread, it says it has virtually none if you enable Game Mode.

Where? He says the game profile has a frame of lag, and no one disputes it for the rest of the thread.

[tengai]

Originally Posted by MdX MaxX

If you can't seem to get it, maybe the TV has audio lag. Try using a Y cable to connect the PS2 audio to PC speakers.

This is what I was thinking about too...After all, my key presses are coming out before the sound does, thus making the sound seem off beat. ATM, I don't have my speakers since I just moved to my own place, but I'll try experimenting with some other things, like a headphone jack for example...

[cmcm]

Originally Posted by Amican

Where? He says the game profile has a frame of lag, and no one disputes it for the rest of the thread.

A frame of lag = virtually no lag. Due to the physical construction and IC logic of a flat-panel screen, one frame is the absolute minimum delay possible.

[KingKannibal]

would this monitor do any good with BMIIDX?

HP® Official Store — Buy an HP w2338h 23&quot Diagonal Full HD Widescreen LCD Monitor (FN747AA#ABA) from HP

[Quantium]

Don't know if this particular set has been tested before, but I just tested my cousin's LG 47" model 47LG50 and it required -2 timing on DJT. Just letting everyone know.

[Exagon]

Originally Posted by Quantium

Don't know if this particular set has been tested before, but I just tested my cousin's LG 47" model 47LG50 and it required -2 timing on DJT. Just letting everyone know.

Was that with the TV's built-in speakers or with external (e.g. computer) speakers? Also, is -2 exactly on or is it just the closest?

The only reason I ask is because my friend has an LG 40~50" whoknowswhat model and I've always meant to ask whether anyone knew whether there was a definitive way to know if a particular brand has lag or not. Yes, I have bothered to read the thread but honestly, it's all helter-skelter and I have a poor memory so I'd be damned to remember. I remember playing CS DD through the TV's own speakers and I needed like -4 and it wasn't perfect at all when I tried. Also the display was godawful.

Guess I need to lrn2TV.

[Quantium]

It was through the built-in speakers. What I meant by -2 timing, is that it was the closest to "normal" timing, ie. my scores were only off by 5-10 points instead of 300+ points with 0 timing.

[coldman64]

Originally Posted by KingKannibal

would this monitor do any good with BMIIDX?

HP® Official Store — Buy an HP w2338h 23&quot Diagonal Full HD Widescreen LCD Monitor (FN747AA#ABA) from HP

It wouldn't work at all since it doesn't have any component or composite input.

[KingKannibal]

Originally Posted by coldman64

It wouldn't work at all since it doesn't have any component or composite input.

Let's assume there is an adapter, will it work then?

[coldman64]

that monitor you linked only supports vga and HDMI. IF you can find a VGA adapter and get the PS2 to output a VGA campatible signal, then maybe you can use that. But otherwise it's not a good option.

I have seen some monitors in newegg.com that support component inputs for less than $300, so you might wanna look there.

[MdX MaxX]

Originally Posted by coldman64

that monitor you linked only supports vga and HDMI. IF you can find a VGA adapter and get the PS2 to output a VGA campatible signal, then maybe you can use that. But otherwise it's not a good option.

I have seen some monitors in newegg.com that support component inputs for less than $300, so you might wanna look there.

Well, I believe the PS2 has the option of outputting video in either Y/Pb/Pr or RGB for component. Doesn't VGA use RGB signals?

[KingKannibal]

Originally Posted by MdX MaxX

Well, I believe the PS2 has the option of outputting video in either Y/Pb/Pr or RGB for component. Doesn't VGA use RGB signals?

I remember back in the DC Quake 3 days my friends tried getting me into getting a VGA adapter and they told me a lot about it, but yes...the PS2 has those options!

It goes black if you put RGB so I am assuming that RGB is VGA output...

i dunno...

but I use Component cable for my PS2

[BlueScreenJunky]

Has anyone been able to test the new Sharp LE600 and LE700 ? I'm really thinking about getting one in the coming months and I'd really hate to have a laggy TV...


Also, is the lag reduced when you use a digital output ? I mean when you plug your PS2 into your TV, the TV has to convert from analog to digital, de-interlace, resize, and then display the picture...
If you plug a X360 via hdmi it just has to display the 1080p picture directly, so it should lag less.
If I'm correct, then maybe an hypothetical "next gen" IIDX will fix part of the problem =)

[Zemata]

TV nub here with some questions.

They make LCD TVs right?
If so, do they have 0 Lag? Good for IIDX?
How much would a 30-40 inch one cost?

Don't care if its hi-def, I just want a nice widescreen, crisp display, and NO LAG.

OR

Should I just get a widescreen CRT? Are they cheaper?

[TOFU!!]

Originally Posted by Zemata

TV nub here with some questions.

They make LCD TVs right?
If so, do they have 0 Lag? Good for IIDX?
How much would a 30-40 inch one cost?

Don't care if its hi-def, I just want a nice widescreen, crisp display, and NO LAG.

OR

Should I just get a widescreen CRT? Are they cheaper?

If you truly want no lag, then you'll have to go with a standard definition CRT. Anything HD will have at least a little bit of lag from upscaling, unless you can find an HD CRT that displays in 480i as a native resolution. All LCD TVs lag. Some so little that it doesn't matter so much, some are unplayable. I think a 30-40 inch LCD will be quite expensive, probably $700-1200. I'm not sure which ones have the least lag but there's got to be a list of the good ones somewhere lol. I have a Sony Bravia and the timing is nearly perfect (aka I can adjust almost instantly) on -2.