Learning Curve in IIDX RED CS=complete BS!

[red shoe paul]

Originally Posted by RVN-G ver. 7.0.0

I heard that the timing of IIDX RED Cs was a lot easier than in the other CS versions (and even the AC versions, obviously). Is that true? I haven.t bought RED CS yet, so I dunno.

I'll agree and confirm this. It is easy.

[infamouspat]

practice

[桜の色]

Originally Posted by red shoe paul

I'll agree and confirm this. It is easy.

Also agreed.

Play RED CS for about 3 hours straight and then pop in 10th CS (Oh look, an unintended Pop'n pun). See what happens.

[Rojo-Ky]

That's odd, my timing seems to be pretty steady over all three new-res releases (9th-11th), I didn't think any of them were easier than the others. I'd even go as far as saying I time best on 10th.

I have a much harder time doing my best on pre-9th interfaces, especially 7th for some reason. It's really depressing actually, to get nearly as many normal greats as just greats on songs that I would probably be working on AAAing if it were on a newer interface. It often keeps me from truly enjoying the songs in those games.

Originally Posted by 青龍☆

It does take time to get the mechanics down - the learning curve is nasty. Just be glad you didn't cut your teeth on 9th style - you'd really be crying then.

Really? I started on 9th and I didn't have much trouble progressing. I personally find the progression curve to be way way nastier once you reach the 10s-12s level than when you first start. The time it took me to go from 9s to 11s is about equal to the time it took me to go from start to 9s, and I'm sure it'll take at least that long again to reach the level of the hardest 12s.

But anyway Dog$ basically answered this thread in it's entirety back on page 1:

Originally Posted by dog$

Welcome to the Beatmania IIDX series, as it always has been and forever shall be.

Enjoy your stay.

ps: practice

[dj D-LOG]

RED CS is pretty nice for beginners, good song list and obviously a great interface. It feels like a really great time to get into IIDX. Especially if you play DDR supernova cause half the new songs are IIDX songs. GG konami.

[seiya256]

Originally Posted by shadow0290

Wait.. I'm confused. I was talking about a Beginner difficulty (like Beatmania US), not a beginner mode where they teach you how to play.
Did you mean that you have to select a different play mode to access the Beginner difficulty/charts?

The Beginner difficulty is derived from the Beginner mode in the Japanese IIDX games. The seperate mode may feel a bit odd if your first version is the US one, but it is pretty much the same with a bit of training tips (in Japanese of course). It's mostly there to get you used to reading the notes, but once you get comfortable with that, it is best to go to Light7 as soon as possible and never look back. (Honestly, I only played about a dozen songs in Beatmania US before I got fed up with the hand holding and moved on to L7. That was the last time I felt good about my skill level in the game. )

[phone]

I started on 10th. It seemed like a nice style to start out on, but after a little while, my skills hit a plateau, if you will, while rising. Then I bought RED and got better.

Too bad the same thing is happening right now. I can't seem to do anything better than 8's. I'm close to a few 9's though (OML 7k Quasar 7k).

[otaku1313]

Um, from 10th Style, I had OML [a] to pass. I now have 4 more songs left to clear. RED is just complete BS in general with bad music, I much prefer HSs single BS 12.

[Yoman0chaos]

Originally Posted by otaku1313

Um, from 10th Style, I had OML [a] to pass. I now have 4 more songs left to clear. RED is just complete BS in general with bad music, I much prefer HSs single BS 12.

LOL, all 12s in Happy Sky are BS sans Scripted Connection. Try passing Rage Against the Usual [a] on Hard and then come back and talk.

Oh, and RED has awesome music, GTFO.

[otaku1313]

Originally Posted by Yoman0chaos

LOL, all 12s in Happy Sky are BS sans Scripted Connection. Try passing Rage Against the Usual [a] on Hard and then come back and talk.

Oh, and RED has awesome music, GTFO.

RED has a lot of Euro-crap, HS has tons and tons of varied, amazing music. I don't really care to pass 12s on hard, I'm not up to that level yet, but I've passed RAU [a] on an emulator before, that's much more than most of the songs on HS, like Captivate Jouka and songs with lots of chords rape me on emulators. RAU [a], you can completely ignore the hard part and still clear the song with 100% <_<

[isostrife]

I just started playing IIDX but i have the US version (it has very few songs but comes with at least some good ones like V and Colors) and im not progressing very much... I just got past the begginer dificulty and am Halfway through normal but i think its kinda hard to learn...
Also, Is there any other beatmania game that can run on a US PS2 besides the one i have?

[dog$]

No there isn't.

Find ways to import.

[valius]

I'm also attempting to jumpstart a IIDX career using BMUS (which I just got today as well as the US KOC)... currently getting pummeled by 3s on Light 7, but nevertheless...

isostrife, the nice thing about the BMUS controller is that we can use it with the JP versions as well.

As for myself, planning to spend on Swap Magic and a cheap copy of 9th style (I'd have to pay double to buy any of the styles from 8th to Red)

[ReDDeEMANIA]

I think it's only me... I started on 7th style.. but had a hard time with 8... was able to pass the safari on 7th and had trouble with it on 8... took me quite a while to get used to the changes.. lol


Now. when i play 10th and switch to 8th ... i don't see/feel a difference in timing... i think i really have to stop the drugs

[Solefald]

You know what Beatmania needs?

CONSTANT SPEED MODS. Instead of HS 0.5, 1.0, 1.5, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, 3.5, 4.0, 4.5, and 5.0 which actually mean 1.5x, 2.0x, 2.25x, 2.5x, 2.75x, 3.0x, 3.25x, 3.5x, 3.75x and 4.0x why don't we just have something like...

1 - 200
2 - 300
3 - 400
4 - 450
5 - 500
6 - 550
7 - 575
8 - 600

And Sudden+ maybe.

Isn't this how GF/DM speeds work?