Poll: IIDX difficulty rankings (11-12)

[Brazoliange]

Because of all of the different opinions on how hard various 11s and 12s are, I thought it'd be kind of interesting to compile an organized ranking of what the general concensus is on the hardest 11s and 12s (i.e. what the X hardest songs in the game are).

For now I'm going to just do 1st-Happy Sky because not many people have played DistorteD, but I might redo it with DD CS a bit after that comes out :shrug: We'll be going off of Hibroad for definitions of what is an 11 and what is a 12.

This is going to sound kind of confusing, but here's how to participate: there are 58 11*s and 26 12*s. Rank them from hardest to easiest and number them (ex. 1. Scorpion Fire 2. Mei 3. OML). This way I can add up the points and determine the hardest 12 and 11 as the lowest amount of points and the easiest as the highest amount of points. This way I can rank them by number of points to give everyone a general concensus of what the order for difficulty is for clearing 11s and 12s. I'll keep track of the results and then post them after a week or two (once a large amount of people have responded.

This is for CLEARING, not scoring. What is hardest for you to hard/normal clear? Using the normal chart, mirror, sudden+/towel, random, sran, whatever

Cross-posted at AIJ and VJArmy so we can get a really broad set of results.

[Brazoliange]

Here's mine.

12s:
1. ピアノ協奏曲第１番"蠍火"
2. 冥
3. Fake Time
4. AA
5. One More Lovely
6. Blue Mirage
7. Erasermotor Phantom
8. V
9. rage against usual
10. Colors Radio Edit
11. Scripted Connection⇒ A Mix
12. Hype the Core
13. gigadelic [a]
14. Schlong
15. 桜
16. gigadelic 7k
17. Moon_Child
18. One or Eight
19. Gambol
20. A
21. 雪月花
22. Please Don't Go
23. Scream Squad
24. in the Sky
25. Innocent Walls [a]
26. Innocent Walls 7k

11s:
1. Blocks
2. Pollinosis
3. 1st Samurai
4. Andromeda
5. Spica
6. Xepher
7. Inazuma
8. Beyond the Earth
9. Fake Time 7k
10. Secret of Love
11. No. 13
12. Blame
13. G2
14. Aurora
15. rainbow rainbow
16. xenon
17. quasar
18. Debtty Daddy
19. Resonate 1794
20. Genocide
21. Click Again
22. Little Little Princess
23. Holic
24. Spiral Galaxy
25. Usual Days Remix
26. Lovely Storm
27. Red Zone
28. stoic
29. The Strong Jaeger (Ryu☆ remix)
30. Scripted Connection⇒ H Mix
31. Inori
32. Go Berzerk
33. Giudecca
34. Kecak
35. Just A Little Smile
36. Be Quiet
37. ピアノ協奏曲第１番"蠍火"
38. ラクエン
39. R5
40. satellite020712 from "CODED ARMS"
41. Space Fight
42. Linus
43.Dawn -The Next Endeavour-
44. Rainbow Flyer
45. 100% Minimoo-G
46. Nemesis
47. Luv To Me Ucchie's Edition
48. Murmur Twins
49. Love Is Eternity
50. Take It Easy
51. Key
52. Lucy
53. Logic Board
54. Checking You Out
55. Rislim Remix
56. Captivate～浄化～
57. Wonder Bullfighter
58. Halfway of Promise

[rmz]

See, the problem with this is that this thread is going to be filled with people who haven't even cleared half of the songs they're listing. So they're either going to fill in what they hear by word of mouth or what they can guess by looking at the notecharts.

I mean, just to take the current example, your VJA page says you have an E on AA[a] but you can claim with any sort of authority that PF Concerto[a] is harder than Mei[a]? Where'd you get that from?

[Brazoliange]

because although I can't do most of it (chord streams are my biggest weakness), the end of AA makes enough sense that if I could physically do it, pattern-wise it wouldn't be nearly as hard for me to clear as Scorpion Fire [a]. Although I can do around the first 1/3-1/2 of Scorpion Fire, I won't be able to do the end for a very very long time; I still fail the 7k around 1/4-1/3 of the time, and that is a lot less complex than the ending of the [a].

I do see what you mean; but if you've played through them, you should have a general idea of which are harder or easier for you... kind of like having ideas of what 10s or 11s you would be closest to passing next in the past.

also, I'm not claiming authority, just giving my personal opinion on which are hardest for me.

[Snapps]

Schlong?

[Creed Bratton]

12*
1. One More Lovely
2. Fake Time
3. Scorpion Fire
4. Mei
5. Nageki no Ki
6. V
7. Colors <radio edit>
8. Please Don't Go
9. moon_child
10. AA
11. gigadelic (both are pretty much the same)
12. eRAseRmOToR pHAnTOm
13. rage against usual
14. Scripted Connection=> A mix
15. DUE TOMORROW
16. Kagonotori
17. tripping contact
18. A
19. Sakura
20. one or eight
21. Setsugekka
22. BLUE MIRAGE
23. Concertino in Blue
24. Innocent Walls
25. SCREAM SQUAD
26. In the Sky

[Akkaraju]

Originally Posted by Snapps

Schlong?

Scripted Connection Long Mix =P

I wish i could have an opinion here, but I haven't passed very many 12s at all, and something tells me this would do a lot better on VJArmy

[Brazoliange]

Originally Posted by Akkaraju

Scripted Connection Long Mix =P

I wish i could have an opinion here, but I haven't passed very many 12s at all, and something tells me this would do a lot better on VJArmy

Originally Posted by Brazoliange

Cross-posted at AIJ and VJArmy so we can get a really broad set of results.

[Arctures]

12s
PDG. Really, I passed OML before this.
Mei (duh)
Fake Time

11s
Blocks, by far

[eggnog fan #83]

mei does not belong that close to the top. mei turns into a 10 once the bpm fuckery is over. (just my opinion though) i'd more than likely put nageki no ki over mei, if we're counting distorted songs.

also i had no idea gigadelic 7k was a 12. now i feel better about only passing it once :P

[Creed Bratton]

Originally Posted by eggnog fan #83

mei does not belong that close to the top. mei turns into a 10 once the bpm fuckery is over.

wow I'd thought everyone had abandoned the "mei is easy 12 lolololol" school of thought but leave it to bemanistyle to prove me wrong

[eggnog fan #83]

Originally Posted by Mayor Adam West

wow I'd thought everyone had abandoned the "mei is easy 12 lolololol" school of thought but leave it to bemanistyle to prove me wrong

because that's exactly what i said now isn't it.

if you're insisting that mei's first half is NOT harder than it's second half, then i just don't know what to say.

i wasn't disagreeing with you, by the way. no need to get your panties in a bunch. i can see mei being in the top 5, but NOT #2.

[navfn2000]

This is a minor detail, but aren't some 12s easier than some 11s? wouldn't that mix the list?

[Creed Bratton]

Originally Posted by eggnog fan #83

because that's exactly what i said now isn't it.

if you're insisting that mei's first half is NOT harder than it's second half, then i just don't know what to say.

i wasn't disagreeing with you, by the way. no need to get your panties in a bunch. i can see mei being in the top 5, but NOT #2.

the last 1/3rd of that song is harder than the first 90% of One More Lovely [A]. it's definitely not a 10*, but it is less brutal than the first 2/3rds of the song.

[Communism]

Isn't there just an easier and authoritative way to do this? Look up each of these songs on vj army and rank them depending on how many people report AAAs and AAs...Scorpion fire and Mei have no AAAs, so they should be at the top...Blue Mirage has only one AAA, so that should be next etc...

Otherwise if you're basing this on everyone's individual strengths and weaknesses, I don't see how you're going to get anything but convoluted variations of disagreement.

I second what rmz said.