Question upon purchasing a DJ Dao

Stepfreak101 · 03-31-2009, 07:53 AM

So I happen to come across a job early in my life so i finally have money to scrounge around and spend stuff with. At first i was gonna buy a cobalt flux for ITG but then I saw beatmania videos again and now i believe if i get one ill so get back into beatmania. but here is the question. Which one to get? My choices are set down between the NEW fp7 and the platinum edition. Well FP7 is cheaper which is goood but is there a bad thing which causes it to be cheaper. Also what are the distances between the FP7 turntable and the PE turntable i want it to be as accurate to the arcade as possible. What is the size or circumference of the scratch. You know similar questions like these. Much help is very appreciated thank you in advance.

m335h73r of PBJ · 03-31-2009, 09:30 AM

If you're just trying to get back into IIDX you're wasting your money. Just get a JKOC and see how you like it.

After you have gotten more acclimated to IIDX then you can spend the big bucks on a fancy controller.

M4j3s7ic12 · 03-31-2009, 10:40 AM

The only difference between the two controllers is the size of the turntable. The TT on the PEE is full size, which of course requires more materials and time to produce, hence the increased price.
You will still get the full arcade experience from an FP7 with the same keys and specs as the PE so the only choice is cost, and having space to store the larger PEE if that's your thing.

I think that you will be more likely to get back into IIDX if you have a good controller to play with. I got really frustrated trying to play with a KOC and only started really enjoying it after I got a Dao... Thats just me though... get whichever one you want man!

m335h73r of PBJ · 03-31-2009, 10:42 AM

Go ahead, waste your money.

Not like I've played this game alot or anything.

Stepfreak101 · 03-31-2009, 10:58 AM

No i already have a KOC. and I did buy IIDX red (and I do have other styles but wanna be at my full potential). I mean i got out of it cause the controller was just 'okay' and i was slightly getting bored of playing the same songs on red (not being able to play other songs due to lack of USB. Radioshack sells cheap ass ones). I wanna get DJ dao to get the full arcade experience like I could have when i went to 8 on the break. Now that I know just the key thing is the size of the turntable and hopefully the distance between the keys and the turnable are the same cause i heard for the KOC they are too close. So from that analysis if that is really the only difference and it is $180 compared to $310 for the PE I'll get the FP7 unless someone convinces me to go for PE. I did see the RE edition compared to the OLD FP7 and it was like HUGE in comparison

m335h73r of PBJ · 03-31-2009, 11:03 AM

An easy way to not be bored by the same songs on any style is not to buy a new controller but to buy more IIDX styles

Do you honestly believe that you wont get bored of RED with your Dao controller as opposed to a JKOC?

I mean shit, why do people insist that spending more money will automatically make something better?

I have had 2 Dao PE's and I still go back to my JKOC to play. I just have more IIDX styles to choose from.

Do that first then start working on getting an ASC. There's no reason to spend that much money on something that you're gonna get bored with anyway.

squeethehobo · 03-31-2009, 11:59 AM

I got my Rare DAO FP7 ASC and it gave me -20 to scratching, +20% to Normal Gauge, +8% EX score, -35% bads, immunity to stuck keys, Passive Skill "Clicky keys", and 25% Critical Score versus Hypers.

Eueheheh. Everybody is so used to RPGs that they just go 'need better gear!'. If you got bored of RED, then snag another style dude. A better controller feels way better, and if you really want one, FP7s are great, but if you got tired of RED with a KOC, you'll get tired of RED with an ASC. If you've got money burning a hole in your wallet, then go ahead and buy an FP7, but don't get an ASC unless you're completely hooked, cause its a huge investment. Although you could turn it around and sell it on here at a moderate loss without any problems.

Its up to you man. You're not losing any quality by getting an FP7, instead of a PEE2, its just not quite full arcade size. The spacing is the same, the TT is lighter (i can only assume), and the controller is smaller. Still kind of big, but smaller. FP7s are totally sexy though, so *shrug* if its worth the $200+ then go for it, but I'd recommend picking up DistorteD over getting the DAO, and if you find yourself really getting into it for a week or two and thinking 'i really want a better controller' then go for it.

Skydazer · 03-31-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Italian Stallion

An easy way to not be bored by the same songs on any style is not to buy a new controller but to buy more IIDX styles

Do you honestly believe that you wont get bored of RED with your Dao controller as opposed to a JKOC?

I mean shit, why do people insist that spending more money will automatically make something better?

I have had 2 Dao PE's and I still go back to my JKOC to play. I just have more IIDX styles to choose from.

Do that first then start working on getting an ASC. There's no reason to spend that much money on something that you're gonna get bored with anyway.

I disagree on this. I've had more fun playing on an ASC after switching from a USKOC to a ASC. It makes you wanna play the game more since playing on ASC is generally a much better feeling than playing kocs. And i know of people who screws up their koc with bad filings etc etc and thus make IIDX CS a big turn off.

squeethehobo · 03-31-2009, 12:32 PM

Skydazer does have a point: ASCs do definitely feel better. But it seems wiser to snag another style and make sure its something you want to get into again - buying and then turning around and selling a style you're likely to only be out $10, instead of doing the same with an ASC from China and being out $50-$75.

=) Daos are really great though. It Just Works, and if it doesn't you can easily Fix It Yourself.

Razer · 03-31-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by squeethehobo

if it doesn't you can easily Fix It Yourself.

I really needed to hear that after my turntable wouldn't respond upon getting here, but it still doesn't change the fact that I am technologically retarded.

Also, get more styles first before going out of your way for an ASC. I starting thinking about wanting one when I had six games because I knew damn well this would be something that I would continue playing instead of it being a "play a shitload and never look at it again" series and just got one after obtaining ten games.

Lentic · 03-31-2009, 01:08 PM

When we're talking about total luxury goods like video game controllers, video game imports, arcade style controllers...I get very suspicious of people who say "you're wasting your money" when they themselves are into the same thing.

Yes, ASCs are pretty expensive for what they are: 9 buttons and a turntable (and by that, I mean, something that is essentially another button).

But if you can justify that cost with the amount of enjoyment you get from IIDX and owning a controller that feels much better than a USKOC or JKOC (something you'll appreciate, if you're decent at the game) then no, it's not a waste.

It'd only be a waste if you bought it and never touched IIDX again.

It seems to me that if someone says "NO DONT DO IT YOU'RE WASTING YOUR MONEY" is trying to keep some jaded, in-group, elite bullshit going on. Maybe I'm wrong. But I can totally see someone saying "No, don't buy an ASC. You're wasting your money. You probably don't like IIDX anyway. ::jerks off on controller::"

I'll add that yeah, if you're getting tired of RED, it's time to buy another style.

squeethehobo · 03-31-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lentic

It seems to me that if someone says "NO DONT DO IT YOU'RE WASTING YOUR MONEY" is trying to keep some jaded, in-group, elite bullshit going on. ... But I can totally see someone saying "No, don't buy an ASC. You're wasting your money. You probably don't like IIDX anyway. ::jerks off on controller::"

Hahahaha because the person who acted like that doesn't have a history of trying to keep some jaded, in-group, elite trash going on (so obviously trying to be the Dr. House of Bemani, drugs and all)

=P

Lentic put it best when he said "Its only a waste if you're going to buy it and never touched IIDX again". If you'll use it, and you can afford it, go for it, but I'd suggest testing the waters first =).

Stepfreak101 · 03-31-2009, 03:08 PM

Well lets just say I do have almost every style but I do wanna get a better arcade feel when playing them assuming that it won't exactly be the same it will be better.
EX:
I got bored of my Foam pad at home playing in the groove
I got so back into it when I played back in the arcades.

So this leads to my second question. The USB adapter for the DJ Dao is only a source of power for the lights of it. So what kind of converter do you suggest i get for the DJ dao to suffer no lag at all. Please give me like an exact name for the item or maybe a link.
Like i was suggested once the Super Joy box 3. but if i wanna play on my laptop it doesnt work for vista. So again any suggestions

Stepfreak101 · 03-31-2009, 03:16 PM

I noticed I just put red on the top I re editted the post. Now i saw why people were convincing no lol. Anyway yea to answer the post before

squeethehobo · 03-31-2009, 04:45 PM

DJ Daos come with a playstation 2 -> printer port adapter, and he offers software on his website to make it work. No strings attached!

Yeah, dude, go for the DAO! Maybe play for a few hours to feel out 'will i keep playing this with a nice controller?' - if the answer is yes, place your order.

=)