SANWA

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Just wondering, are there more than one type of Sanwa keys that are used in Beatmania machines/ASCs.



The ones above look misty/lighter, yet the ones below look all shiny and new.



Does this come with the age/use of the buttons, or have they been redesigned?

I just want to know because I really liked the feel of the Sanwa's in an old Beatmania machine I played on, and they were the misty looking ones.

[eureka1]

YOU SUCK

[Will154]

well sanwas arent that different from arcade to ASC...it says it...arcade style controller...

theres a difference though between Arcade machines and DAOS Sanwas (but its not thaaat different)

between Beatmania and BeatmaniaIIDX arcades...i dont feel any difference
of course maybe beatmania is older but it doesnt change a lot.

conclusion: no...i dont think they are more than one kind of sanwas. They may have changed with time though.

[PICASIO PICASIO]

And I'd like to point out the wear around the keys in the first couple pics.
But do you have any DD or GOLD pics? Because 5key and 8th are pretty old. Really old.

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Originally Posted by ParadoxVincent

And I'd like to point out the wear around the keys in the first couple pics.
But do you have any DD or GOLD pics? Because 5key and 8th are pretty old. Really old.

Yeah that's what I wanted to know, like, if brand new DD/GOLD keys would eventually end up looking like those 8th keys. Also does anyone know if the "feeling" of Sanwa keys take a while to break in?

I just need to know, because I want to buy myself a set of the faded ones, as I really liked the feel of them, and I don't know if Brand new looking Sanwas have a different feel to them. If brand new ones don't feel any different, then I'll go with brand new.

[Empathy]

Yeah theres a lot of wear on those keys, but I believe teh arcade style black keys are made "smoked" if i recall correctly, they aren't black due to coloring of the plastic or any sort of insert. That can make them look more worn just at a glance/by default.

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Yeah I also noticed that in those old LISU vids the keys look smoky, and I'm sure they cant be very heavily worn if it's filmed on a Beatmania II 1st style machine.

[GA.Mole]

I believe they changed the color of the black keys. I remember some talk about that around 9th Style. The button isn't any different other than the insert, though. So, in terms of play, doesn't matter.

EDIT: From what I'm reading it looks like the color of the plastic changed. Whatever. The point is, they did at some point in time switch from one style to the other.

[K.AuthoR]

In pre-9th style games, the key cap for the top row was actually white, but had the smoke insert. After 9th, the key cap itself became colored blackish.

[Empathy]

Originally Posted by K.AuthoR

In pre-9th style games, the key cap for the top row was actually white, but had the smoke insert. After 9th, the key cap itself became colored blackish.

haha yeah tahts what i was trying to get at. the newer style keys look better i think.

[gtc]

Take apart the keys and clean them.

Before/after:

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So from what I've read, the black keys have gone from having a smoke coloured insert, to the actual plastic being coloured, and they have no difference in feeling.

Well, that's all I needed to know pretty much, thanks!

Now to quest for a nice new set of Sanwas

[PooIs]

It's the insert, and the fact that the keys in the arcade controllers are dirty as hell because of several years of use, where as the ones in the DJ DAO controller are brand new.

[recessionrazor]

Originally Posted by PooIs

and the fact that the keys in the arcade controllers are dirty as hell because of several years of fat otaku's beating on them in a vain attempt to be more Japanese

fixed :>

[Blackraven]

Well the question now is: Where can we buy Sanwa keys?

Well there used to be himuragames.com which used to sell OBSA-45UK keys but it looks like the site is down.

Any alternative sites/places of purchase?