Which way should I go to change my playstyle?

[mrclean235]

Alright, I'm at one of those points where I'm considering changing my hand position a little. Right now I use left ring 1, middle 2, left index 3, then right index 4,right thumb 5, right middle 6, and right ring 7. I want to get better at scratching but I'm conflicted as to what I should do.

Should I teach my right hand to move more and use my right thumb to hit 3 and 2 on heavy scratch areas with weird chords? Or should I teach myself how to use my left thumb to hit 2 and 3 while scratching/aid in playing? I ask because a couple months ago I taught myself to use my right thumb and it made scales tons easier, and I jumped from doing 8's to 10's in a month, but I'm noticing scratching is my weak point, especially arcade dimensions (I'm getting a dao so this is an issue). So whats the better route?

[vader_seven_]

move your right hand over to hit key 3.

[POST RENAISSANCE]

That's my basic, "if-nothing-hard-is-happening" hand position. But besides that, I use my left thumb a lot to hit keys 1, 3, and 5 a lot.

When you're hitting keys while scratching at the same time, use your left thumb to hit keys 1 or 3, while using the left index to hit 2. After that, learn to be more flexible with your right hand to cover for the left hand, while learning to still hit the keys 4, 5, 6, and 7 (the flexibility of the right thumb will help greatly in this). I never have to use my thumbs to hit any of 2, 4, or 6.

[Hey Little Boy]

Originally Posted by POST RENAISSANCE

When you're hitting keys while scratching at the same time, use your left thumb to hit keys 1 or 3, while using the left index to hit 2.

This.

[mrclean235]

I meant 1 and 3 more than 2 and 3, I think it'll make doing trills on 1 2 a lot easier.

[Hey Little Boy]

when it comes to the 1->2 and 6->7 rolls I always turn them into chords.

Sure I end up with like 50 goods, but I can still pass DUE TOMORROW [A]

[Blackraven]

Or you could do what this guy here does.

Sure it may require more strength of your right hand and it may be more straining. But seriously, keeping your right hand independent helps really well esp. on scratch runs.

For more info, watch this vid of this guy playing Rakuen:
YouTube - ???? (another) Rank AAA [full combo] (dj KA)

[BemaniAK]

Originally Posted by Blackraven

YouTube - ???? (another) Rank AAA [full combo] (dj KA)

this board really needs to support japanese characters...
unless it's just my computer giving question marks on this website, and this website only...

[PooIs]

No, it's the forum software.

[Toph]

Originally Posted by POST RENAISSANCE

When you're hitting keys while scratching at the same time, use your left thumb to hit keys 1 or 3, while using the left index to hit 2.

This is exactly what I do, and it's exactly what DJ Totoro does, and it works fine for us.

[PICASIO PICASIO]

Well me, I would just not even think about it. I would just try to stress your left hand while you're practicing so it learns how to move around more naturally.

Also, once I just thought "I have to somehow hit every note that comes down no matter what", I stopped playing so mechanically and now to be honest, I don't even know what the fuck I'm doing and I can barely read the charts, but I'm passing 11's as where a month ago I was still stuck on 10's.

But take all that with a grain of salt because in all honestly probably everyone on this thread could kick my ass at IIDX, but, I dunno, that's what worked for me so far so, in my opinion!

[my58vw]

Originally Posted by Blackraven

Or you could do what this guy here does.

Sure it may require more strength of your right hand and it may be more straining. But seriously, keeping your right hand independent helps really well esp. on scratch runs.

For more info, watch this vid of this guy playing Rakuen:
YouTube - ???? (another) Rank AAA [full combo] (dj KA)

This is how I play...

[Milk Chan]

Originally Posted by mrclean235

Alright, I'm at one of those points where I'm considering changing my hand position a little. Right now I use left ring 1, middle 2, left index 3, then right index 4,right thumb 5, right middle 6, and right ring 7. I want to get better at scratching but I'm conflicted as to what I should do.

Should I teach my right hand to move more and use my right thumb to hit 3 and 2 on heavy scratch areas with weird chords? Or should I teach myself how to use my left thumb to hit 2 and 3 while scratching/aid in playing? I ask because a couple months ago I taught myself to use my right thumb and it made scales tons easier, and I jumped from doing 8's to 10's in a month, but I'm noticing scratching is my weak point, especially arcade dimensions (I'm getting a dao so this is an issue). So whats the better route?

This is my exact same position and I can A most 11s and AA 10s. Since you are getting an arcade controller I would suggest substituting your left thumb for keys 1 and 3, which is what most of the players seem to do in the arcade.

I could never figure out how to do this/haven't had the patience to get it, so I never bother.

[Hey Little Boy]

Originally Posted by Milk Chan

This is my exact same position and I can A most 11s and AA 10s. Since you are getting an arcade controller I would suggest substituting your left thumb for keys 1 and 3, which is what most of the players seem to do in the arcade.

I could never figure out how to do this/haven't had the patience to get it, so I never bother.

It really helps. I scratch with my left ring finger as opposed to my pinky and using my thumb for keys 1 and 3 make things alot simpler as opposed to scratching with the pinky, middle finger key 1; index key 2 and thumb key 3.

Then I get to the sections with 1/3 chords and smash my palm into the controller. Works almost everytime unless there's a 1/2 roll beforehand.

[Blackraven]

Originally Posted by my58vw

This is how I play...

Cool, then good for you

You won't have a problem then with songs like Make Me Your Own or Gigadelic.

Nice choice of playstyle.