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Odyssey Fun World Tinley Park IL. Drummania 10th mix Questions
Old 08-18-2009, 02:11 PM   #1
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Post Odyssey Fun World Tinley Park IL. Drummania 10th mix Questions

Ok. so for those of you in IL that have been to OFW in tinley park you should know by now that the dm 10th is completely unplayable.

What I was wondering is would it be worth it to try and fix this machine up? I was just there on aug 15th 2009 and It was completely shut off. about a month ago i was there and it was on but the coin mech was not working so i got one of the staff to fix it and as soon as i started to play first the bass pedal wasnt registering iirc and the hi hat was still doing the "when you hit it just right it constantly hits" and i think one of the pads either one of the toms wasnt working either...

Do any of you think it would be worth the money to possibly ask to see if they would sell it, try and Fix its many problems, and possibly have some form of bemani in IL other than ddr.

Also if it seems doable getting a new upgrade possibly for a V-V6. Yes i know you need the new pcb, dongle, dvd, since the switch in hardware from 11-V but When and If the new XG comes out in japan i thought it might be easier to obtain one then.

I've been really wanting to see if my local arcade op would want to buy this and see if he could fix it.
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Old 08-18-2009, 03:23 PM   #2
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Makes me wonder if they bought FFC's old machine. lol

Anyway, yeah, if those problems are what I think they are (95% sure), then they're easy fixes for cheap actually, so you're in luck.

The bass pedal should be using a microswitch with a long bar over the button to help trigger it like the top one in this picture: http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/sw...s/k_series.jpg. The biggest problem is that when not screwed to the interior plate tight enough, the switch will rotate slightly and the bar will move out of range of the pedal, leaving you with empty kicking. It really takes about 20 minutes of adjusting to get the perfect kick balance once you get it on; too close and you'll only damage the switch or move it again, too far and you'll lose contact. Easy fix on a whole. The other issue with the switch might actually be that the wire contact fell off, which takes about 2 seconds to put back on, though make sure you connect it back to the right terminal.

The hi-hat problem could be a few things and I was never able to exactly pinpoint it when I was working on the same problem on a local machine. At first I thought it might be a static issue where the pad was causing a buildup (aka not grounded right) and was releasing through the piezo trigger, but I was later told that it was possibly an issue with the HH's pad PCB needing a resoldering.

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The part where that cord's plug is connecting to the PCB is apparently where the issue was, however we never had to resolder to fix the issue, I just pushed the socket against the PCB slowly but firmly, then for good measure replaced the piezo sensor (a very inexpensive fix) and checked the cable that attached the HH PCB to the machine for any exposed wiring (there was a little, easily fixed with electrical tape) and the thing worked perfectly afterwards. :P

All in all, if you have access to electrical tape, screwdrivers, piezo triggers, and microswitches, the fixes will cost you.... nothing. If you need triggers or switches, you're gonna be out probably $5 and shipping costs.

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Now, as far as getting it for upgrading, just remember that there is also a hardware switch from V3 to V4. V3 is definitely an awesome mix, but if you can get a good price on it, snag a V5. Like you mentioned, with XG coming out soon (hopefully), finding prices on late mixes will be much easier as arcades liquidate out their old GFdm to acquire new. Don't expect any domestic deals, though. Probably should talk to Zorahk for info on importing stuff, I know he has a reliable seller.

If you haven't played any of the V series yet, I'd say in order of best (IMO) to worst would be V6 (only because of V5's unlocks), V4 (only because of V3's unlocks), V5, V3, V2, V1. As far as non-song differences go:

V1 has an awful song selection GUI.
V2 fixed the above problem, AFAIK.
V3 added Hazard Mode. Last version with Nonstop as well.
V4 added Battle Mode and I think it got rid of Hazard.
V5 brought back Hazard under a new name(?) and added Half Dark (VERY useful mod) and new autoplay options. Also changed the modifier access menu.
V6... did V6 add anything? I forget... :\

Anyway, best of luck on that cab. If you're gonna try to get them to sell, definitely look at things such as: monitor condition (burn-in, nonconvergence, washed out look, whether or not it's a real AC monitor or a TV, etc...) because those are not cheap to replace by any means and they can be very dangerous to tinker with unless you know monitor repair; pad sensitivity (cheap fixes, but you can always argue price based on playability); speaker quality/vibrance; and lights. DM machines can take serious abuse but those are a few things you'll want to look for anyway, obviously. If anything, subpar ratings on any of those can help you save a few bucks when you're haggling.

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Old 08-18-2009, 03:43 PM   #3
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i also remember it having another problem along the lines of it would randomly stop working after about 3-5 sets of songs. could that be a CD/software problem. keep in mind this problem was discovered around 2-3 years ago when the machine was still slightly working correctly.

but thanks again jinx i havent even asked any of the arcade op's yet it was just an idea i was throwing around. but im not sure about this but i thought i had heard someone say that they just "rent the machines" and not actually own them.
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Old 08-18-2009, 03:47 PM   #4
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That hardware was famous for having CD-ROM errors. Definitely won't be an issue if you upgrade post-haste, but if that isn't an option you'll probably have to search around for a VERY similar drive. I remember that the machine only likes very specific drives, but it's not proprietary or anything, so if you can find a similar one on eBay or a local store, go for it. Modern ones /don't/ work as far as I know, though. Gotta use something the same age as the original tech.
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Old 08-19-2009, 03:49 AM   #5
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See I've heard from way back that this machine sucks, and it sounds like nothing has changed. I am pretty sure the game never gets played, and it also seems those are all easy fixes like previously stated. Since thats all true one of us should call and ask about purchasing the machine, and refurbishing it. I dont know how much they would look for, but I could possibly buy it, or at least make an offer if no one else wants to.
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Old 08-19-2009, 04:16 AM   #6
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I would like to buy it depending on how much they want but i probably wouldnt be able to afford it...
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Old 08-19-2009, 10:52 AM   #7
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We've been trying to get them to sell the machine for a while, but no one's talking...

The monitor's been screwed since day one (doesn't look like it until you try playing...anything higher than 3x is practically unplayable because of the messed colors), they've constantly had problems with the pads, it's just in horrible shape.

Upgrades unfortunately aren't much an option because of completely different hardware. You can get anything up to 10th Mix easily but outside of that you won't get much unless you know the right people and willing to throw down a very hefty chunk of change.
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:46 PM   #8
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Just an update on the DM 10.

I stopped in on the way home from work on Friday. At first, I couldn't find the damn thing. Then I noticed the upstairs is completely updated (interior-wise.... not game-wise). All the upright cabinets were in a circle...... and the DM was inside the circle... unplugged.... and away so nobody could get access to it.

How sad.
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:01 AM   #9
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wow, that is so sad. someone make them an offer we start the bidding at 10$
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Old 10-27-2009, 02:21 PM   #10
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wow, that is so sad. someone make them an offer we start the bidding at 10$
I tried calling before. They just sort of told me it was not for sale, and the manager did not want to sell it. Maybe I will call again this week, but I am pretty sure I will get the same excuse. I am pretty sure they think by having someone buy it they are taking a loss, but seeing as no one plays it and it needs fixing its completely pointless to think that way.

by the way if anyone does end up getting their hands on it please let others play it seeing as its quite possibly the only drummania machine in Illinois.
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:35 PM   #11
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even if it is almost unplayable as is. its definitely a fixer.
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I bought the Drummania 10th mix.... for $100.

I win.
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Skeach? When the hell did you change your username?
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I stopped coming here a few years ago. So, I came back as Skeach. (don't tell anyone who I am.)
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So you can rebuild a ratio at lightspeed /and/ buy Bemani AC at rock bottom pricing.

Is there anything this skeach101 /can't/ do?
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