DDR SuperNOVA 2 AC Mk. II (US AC out now; e-Amuse!)

[「dj.TK」]

Im just going on the flashing 10 = 11 crap.

I've only played HDV on ES on reverse, but then due to the nature of the first 2/3'rds of the song its only a 8 or 9. So I guess you're right.

[hello271]

Originally Posted by 「尭」

QFT. Get rid of this old 10ft / flashing bullcrap, because LoM != FELMO.
A 1-12 ft system would be a welcome change, so it would clear any confusion if its passable or not. Example for the supernova 1 Boss songs:

MAX300 / MAXX / PS / Choas / Xepher Oni / Bag 1x / M300SMMM = 10.
LoM / HDV / FELM / PSM / PSMO / Chaos Oni / M300SMMMO = 11.
FAXX (only because LoM !=FAXX hvy) / FAXXO / HDVO / FELMO = 12.

Its not hard konami.

I don't think there's enough of these songs to justify adding two extra step ratings. I think the songs should be ordered as such:

10: Max300 / Unlimited / Xepher Oni / Bag / SMMM / LoM / HDV / FELM / PSM / PSMO / ChaosO / SMMMO / NGO Oni (?)
11: FAXX / FAXXO / HDVO / FELMO / Dead End Oni

And make harder songs that will be 12s if needed.

[tsugaru7reveng]

Originally Posted by hello271

I don't think there's enough of these songs to justify adding two extra step ratings. I think the songs should be ordered as such:

10: Max300 / Unlimited / Xepher Oni / Bag / SMMM / LoM / HDV / FELM / PSM / PSMO / ChaosO / SMMMO / NGO Oni (?)
11: FAXX / FAXXO / HDVO / FELMO / Dead End Oni

And make harder songs that will be 12s if needed.

NGOO is like an 11 to me.

[Cali]

Yeah, bump up NGO Oni and sounds like a plan.

But, its not going to happen till at least the next arcade mix, so, not much use talking about it now.

[The Butthole Surfer]

Originally Posted by FFR4EVA_00

The special songs weren't made for quality purposes, I'm guessing. They were probably made simply for honoring achievements.
As for the 10's, you're not alone in thinking that the 10-foot rating is too broad. I personally think that Konami should re-rate all of the songs in a new 1-12 foot ranking, with the extra flashing difficulty reinstated. If they wanted to be more extreme, then adding + and - to songs that rank on the higher and lower ends of each level (respectively) could be done, but I highly doubt that Konami would ever want to take on this mammoth task.

Wow, I didn't think I'd have so many people agreeing with me on this... honestly, I expected to be flamed for referencing ITG or something. XD

I agree, they NEED the new rankings. Another reason for this is I'm tired of people thinking they're godlike because they can pass bag (with mods) or Sakura Heavy, because it says it's a 10.

And if I happen to fail my FAXX ES (I've only passed it twice), the same kid says I suck. ANGER. D<

[Månåtor v0.25]

I agree, they NEED the new rankings. Another reason for this is I'm tired of people thinking they're godlike because they can pass bag (with mods) or Sakura Heavy, because it says it's a 10.

I own everyone because I can pass Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious on Heavy at 4x*

*Because it's a 10, so I am leet.

[The Butthole Surfer]

Originally Posted by t7r改

NGOO is like an 11 to me.

NGOO... N Goo...

Hella fun to say. XD

[Trigger_Happy]

Why introduce a 1-12 rating system? DDR's maximum limit is 10 and it should stay like that. I don't know what to say about the existence and use of flashing 10s, but if it seriously confuses people even though they already know how hard the song is, there is a problem.

[typobox]

Originally Posted by Trigger_Happy

Why introduce a 1-12 rating system? DDR's maximum limit is 10 and it should stay like that.

Why? Sitting in one place because "that's the way it is" is hardly a way to solve problems.

Personally, though, I'd be happy if they were just consistent about the application of the flashing 10 difficulty. If flashing 10s were given to songs that would be treated as "11s" consistently, it'd solve the problem nicely. The new problem that's arising with SN2 is the arrival of 9s that are clearly harder than pretty much all of the existing 9s and occasionally rival the low-end 10s (looking at you, Trip Machine PhoeniX).

[Reenee]

Originally Posted by Trigger_Happy

Why introduce a 1-12 rating system?

Because MAX 300 is not as hard as PARANOiA Survivor Max.

[Justican]

Im sure in the future, if DDR continues to be successful, the new rating system is inevitable, they id it for Pop'n Music, then IIDX, Im sure they will start a new series after supernova with the new rating systems, which will most likely be similar to IIDX from 1 to 12. Makes sense though, there handing out more and more 10 footers out there and with older songs having more and more inaccurate ratings, the switch over should work very well.

[hello271]

Originally Posted by cali_surfer_788

Yeah, bump up NGO Oni and sounds like a plan.

But, its not going to happen till at least the next arcade mix, so, not much use talking about it now.

Yeah, I wasn't sure about NGOO (haven't played it yet) which is why I put a question mark next to it. But...I do wish Konami would start using more streams and less jumps in their hard songs.

[Trigger_Happy]

Originally Posted by Reenee

Because MAX 300 is not as hard as PARANOiA Survivor Max.

This is all LoM's fault. If it wasn't a flashing 10 this whole debate on flashing 10s and new ratings wouldn't happen. I'd go with typobox and the consistent flashing 10s. That would keep the original 10-foot rating system going but also keep an indication that there are harder-than-usual 10s. But it needs to flash more, so that people won't just notice it a couple of months after the game's release. Or maybe have a red exclimation mark or something.

Bah, too much crap, as long as it doesn't affect the gameplay, I could care less.

[FFR4EVA_00]

Originally Posted by hello271

I don't think there's enough of these songs to justify adding two extra step ratings. I think the songs should be ordered as such:

10: Max300 / Unlimited / Xepher Oni / Bag / SMMM / LoM / HDV / FELM / PSM / PSMO / ChaosO / SMMMO / NGO Oni (?)
11: FAXX / FAXXO / HDVO / FELMO / Dead End Oni

And make harder songs that will be 12s if needed.

Are you seriously suggesting that Konami should make harder songs than Dead End Oni?

[Trigger_Happy]

It may sound like a crazy thing to say, but in the future, we will be playing Blurs and Quasars for the first stage of our 1 bar challenge courses and you would want harder songs.